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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:41 pm
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Has 2 b sed. MKD has many characters like 2 others mixed 2gether. Kira= Kano + Sonya. Ashra = Kai + Li May. Havik = Shangtsung + Quan Chi. shujinko = Kung Lao + Other fightrs 
so how do u feel about them??? Are they kool?
Or should they be deleted for the origonals?
Choose your desision.
Mine?
Kira and Noob Smoke r KOOL but the rest drool 
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:04 pm
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Most of who you mentioned I like, the only "rip off" characters that I think need to go, are Kira, she really pissed me off being a kano sonya rip off and (yes I know, not in MKD) Jarek needs to go, even tho he had his own moves in MKA, I still hate em. Other then that, the rest can stay, I really dont mind them, I actually like Ashrah alot.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:20 pm
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Yeah Kira was the most unoriginal character in deception like it has been mentioned she is just a Kano/Sonya clone in the way of all the moves and such. We could do without her.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:52 pm
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Why not get rid of Shujinko as well? He's basically a combination of every fighter, kinda like Shinnok could mimic everyone's moves in MK 4. As a matter of fact, if they do kill off Shujinko, I'll be partying like there's no tomorrow.    
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:03 pm
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Funny you say Shujinko is a rip off shinnok, Shinnok (Not storywise, but in game fighting) seems a pretty much rip off Shang Tsung, final villain who can change form. That means Shujinko is a rip off of a rip off. Maybe noob and smoke should have been separate. Kira is a good character I thought. Sonya is cool, Kano is cool, a mix is fine by me, although, I don't see why they didn't just put in both Sonya and Kano.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:14 am
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| Albert Simon wrote: | | ...I don't see why they didn't just put in both Sonya and Kano. |
...because that wouldn't piss you off, and of course that's their main goal...
...actually from what I saw in Geddon, Shang Tsung as well Shinnok both seemed awesomely original with moves, and I like them both a lot in these new 'private-owned special moves' personas. I wouldn't mind that both of them remain, especially Shinnok.
Shujinko...can go.
Kira's weapons were decent and her moves alright, only her specials seemed to be rip-offs. I kind o' liked her having Kano's though, showing his eternal mark on the Black Dragon...but still...she can go. Both Kano and Sonya I find better as well more important, seeming to have far more vital roles in the future of MK...
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:33 am
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| l{ombat_l{rave wrote: | | Albert Simon wrote: | | ...I don't see why they didn't just put in both Sonya and Kano. |
...because that wouldn't piss you off, and of course that's their main goal... |
It didn't piss me off. A mix of Sonya and Kano is fine by me.
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...actually from what I saw in Geddon, Shang Tsung as well Shinnok both seemed awesomely original with moves, and I like them both a lot in these new 'private-owned special moves' personas. I wouldn't mind that both of them remain, especially Shinnok. |
I was meaning in MK 4, Shinnok is a bit of a rip off shang, as I said before, he is the main villain you fight at the end and can change to and fighter, only difference is his appearance doesn't change.
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Shujinko...can go.
Kira's weapons were decent and her moves alright, only her specials seemed to be rip-offs. I kind o' liked her having Kano's though, showing his eternal mark on the Black Dragon...but still...she can go. Both Kano and Sonya I find better as well more important, seeming to have far more vital roles in the future of MK... |
It was more than just her special. Her fighting styles, Xing Yi and Kenpo. Sonya did Kempo in DA and Kano did Xing Yi. The dragon teeth seem to have the same fighting style as Kano's butterfly knives, but look more like the sword's Jola's black dragon clan used in conquest.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:08 pm
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...you are correct on the Kira ordeal, that was my mistake. Over time I just forgot exactly how 'merged' she had been.
Though I really only meant for the first sentence to be directed to you. The rest had just been my opinion on the subject . Of course Shinny had been a rip-off of Shangy back in MKIV. Though he adapted quite well with quite awesome moves, both of them. It's just Shujinko I can never see adapting with 'cool' or 'original' moves. Thus I'd far rather him gone than the others.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:55 am
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| l{ombat_l{rave wrote: | | It's just Shujinko I can never see adapting with 'cool' or 'original' moves. Thus I'd far rather him gone than the others. |
Enough said here, Krave. I'd rather them kill off Shujinko more than anyone else. For me, it will be a disappointment if he is one of the few characters that survives after Armageddon. Shujinko, to me, is a disappointment. Sure, he was fun to play with in MK:D, but he's just a joke in MK:Ar and way too easy to beat. I mean, come on, not a lot of people play with him because he's such a big rip off, no offense to any Shujinko fans out there, but he's not worthy of the title Mortal Kombat Champion.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:49 pm
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Its probably because his story is over. Shujinko has had his time in the spotlight and now he is no longer very usefull. One thing I thought about him, did anyoine else see the whole Nightwolf clensing his soul as pointless? He goes to Damashi "I have cleansed my soul." Damashi "That is unfortunate go to the Netherrealm and taint it again." Wouldn't at some point, Damashi look in on him cleansing his soul over years and tell him to stop? Also, did any realms other than Netherrealm require a tainted soul.
Maybe if it had stayed cleansed it would have saved him from that MKA ending where he kills everyone. Sends them to join that guy's uncle that he killed in Konquest.
One other thing, Maybe his fighting style should be Kuk Sool Won, I'm not being funny because that is what I am studying, KSW uses a mixture of all different martial arts. He knows everyone's specials, why ot their fighting styles as well?
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From what I've heard, the fighting styles concept is scrapped.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:43 am
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| Jay wrote: | | From what I've heard, the fighting styles concept is scrapped. |
Really?, do you have a source? and link? anything?!? lol
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:59 am
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| Satyricon wrote: | | Jay wrote: | | From what I've heard, the fighting styles concept is scrapped. |
Really?, do you have a source? and link? anything?!? lol |
Jay is one of those people that doesn't need a source. Jay has credibility.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:54 am
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| Albert Simon wrote: | Its probably because his story is over. Shujinko has had his time in the spotlight and now he is no longer very usefull. One thing I thought about him, did anyoine else see the whole Nightwolf clensing his soul as pointless? He goes to Damashi "I have cleansed my soul." Damashi "That is unfortunate go to the Netherrealm and taint it again." Wouldn't at some point, Damashi look in on him cleansing his soul over years and tell him to stop? Also, did any realms other than Netherrealm require a tainted soul.
Maybe if it had stayed cleansed it would have saved him from that MKA ending where he kills everyone. Sends them to join that guy's uncle that he killed in Konquest.
One other thing, Maybe his fighting style should be Kuk Sool Won, I'm not being funny because that is what I am studying, KSW uses a mixture of all different martial arts. He knows everyone's specials, why ot their fighting styles as well? |
I see your point, but that would make him even more of a rip-off. You know, when I originally played Deception, I thought he was an ok character, but when I saw that all of his special moves were mimicing all the characters, I said to myself, "Hell no!" I mean, come on, an old man throwing Scorpion's spear, now that's just asking for trouble when you do that. Now, here, most people would say that Shang Tsung did a similar thing by morphing into a character, but their ENTIRE character, from appearance to fighting stances were mimiced. Shinnok did a similar thing, ripping off Shang Tsung by mimicing their moves and fighting styles, but not appearance. To me, Shujinko is no better than the MK4 Version of Shinnok. He's another rip-off character that needs to be scrapped.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:26 pm
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| Scorpion53 wrote: |
I see your point, but that would make him even more of a rip-off. |
He allready is a rip off, meant to bee like all characters combined or soething like that.
I'm not sure how clear my comment about fighting styles was, I looked atit and it looked like I meant give him 30, I was meaning, just KSW, which has moves from every martial art. And another style, say Shoalin Fist seeing as everone should have 2 and a weapon.
What is that about Ashra being like Li Mei Splinter said.I see the Kai resemblance as she has that fire up then it drops, but if she is a mix she is more a Fujin/Kai mix, Although her moves do vary from both of them.
| Jay wrote: | | From what I've heard, the fighting styles concept is scrapped. |
I must say, If that happens I will be very disapointed. I honestly see MK8 being the worst mess up midway ever makes. From what I have heard of it, why the new system anyway. MK is not a new thing, it has it's fans. If Boon tries to make it completely different from what it has been before he will end up losing a lot of the loyal fans, sort of like, we are enjoying what we have been getting from MK, if they try to change what we are getting drastically, we will not be amused.
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