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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:21 am
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Should they relesaed Monster bio's or his bio;s will be same as Scoprion bio
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:00 pm
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Something like that would be okay (Monster had more of a story than Meat anyway) but since he's not a character in the game they have no reason to release a bio for him.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:01 pm
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| MKRAYDEN wrote: | | Should they relesaed Monster bio's or his bio;s will be same as Scoprion bio |
No Monster character in Armageddon => no bio for him 
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:27 pm
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Maybe he should have been put in it, characters like Moloch were never playable before Armageddon, but were in it. Might have been good to find out about him, who had told him he was the Champion of the Eldar gods. There wasn't even solid proof he was Scorpion, could have been a whole new character. I would have liked to find out about him, What he was doing in the Nexus, stuff like that. How would it sound if he had been some type of clone that Quan Chi had created that could go up against Scorpion in the deeper plans of the Netherrealm?
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:44 pm
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It is a bit suprising they included characters like Meat and yet omitted Monster. Having said that, Monster never appeared in the main fighting part of the game, only Konquest, which is why they may have omitted him from Armageddon. Also, considering he was originally just supposed to be an alternative costume for Scorpion, he's lucky to have made it into the storyline at all. Still, I too would like to find out a bit more about his storyline.
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:50 pm
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I suppose we should treat him just like any boss from the adventure-genre games. He's no different from Tremor, the Elemental Gods, Orochi Hellbeasts, or Kahn's Statue, is he? Konquest is just another adventure compilation, whether or not he's canon, there's no reason to put him above the others...
...of course, that wouldn't explain Meat.
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:16 pm
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There is a bit more to Monster than other characters like Tremmor, e know barely anything about him. Only that he attacked Shujinko claiming to be champion of the Eldar Gods, and has Scorpion's moves/styles. There has to be more to him than that, like, Did he really think he was champion, or was he just saying it? The nexus can only be entered by certain people, how can Monster enter?
Also could he have been Scorpion in armour, Monster was pretty early on in the story, Scorpion only seemed to get a promotion in Deception, before that he has been trying to kill Quan Chi, but it seems more likely that it was as early as when he was enemies with fighting Sub Zero at the time Monster came in. Monster appeared, I can't remember was it after the chaos realm kamidogu or the nether realm one but it was set very early in the MK timeline that Shujinko fought him.
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Actually it's not early on in the konquest mode of deception that you fight monster it's right before you can get the last kamidogu to put into the portal when you fight him cause he stops you from doing it till you beat him.  Of course i haven't played deception in a while but i always have remembered that one part of the konquest mode.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:22 pm
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| doug wrote: | | Actually it's not early on in the konquest mode of deception that you fight monster it's right before you can get the last kamidogu to put into the portal when you fight him cause he stops you from doing it till you beat him. Of course i haven't played deception in a while but i always have remembered that one part of the konquest mode. |
Ok, then you should let the doctors examine your memory, because you confused Monster fight with Scorpion fight. It was Scorpion who tried to prevent you from putting the last kamidogu on the altar
In general about Monster:
Character called ´Monster´ as a playable character? No, thank you. That would be pretty stupid name for a character. Not mentioning the fact he´d be too reminding of Scorpion. Though I have to admit that I really liked the ´Monster´ costume
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Monster a stupid name?
How about Reptile? How about Meat? And the fact they have the two characters with the exact same name the only being difference a C and a K?
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:24 pm
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Well, Monster was just a mimic of Scorpion. He had the fighting styles, weapon, and special moves of Scorpion. There is no proof that Monster was Scorpion, but these facts here show what it boils down to. 
On the topic of Chameleon and Khameleon, they're not the same character. Chameleon is a kombination of all male ninjas in the game while Khameleon is a kombination of Mileena, Kitana and Jade.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:06 pm
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I never said Khameleon and Chameleon were the same, I just said that they have the same name practically. However when you say that Monster is just a rip off of Scorpion, then you are forgetting the early versions of Reptile, Meat, Jade, Smoke, and etc.
Reptile was combo of Scorpion and Sub-Zero, Meat was just an alternate cotumes, Jade was just a faster Kitana, Smoke was a grey Scorpion, and so on. Khameleon and Chameleon themselves are rip-offs too. They're started out as just a combination of ninjas of their gender.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:31 pm
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| Jay wrote: | Monster a stupid name?
How about Reptile? How about Meat? And the fact they have the two characters with the exact same name the only being difference a C and a K? |
Meat has always been meant as a funny character, therefore he deserves stupid name.
And I suppose that Shao Kahn came up with the name ´Reptile´, coz the ninja was supposed to be the last member of his race, therefore when you hear the name ´Reptile´, you can´t confuse him with anyone else.
On the other hand, many characters could be called ´Monster´ (Drahmin, Moloch, Goro, Kintaro, Baraka etc.). And that´s why I think that calling character ´Monster´ is lame, unless he´s just part of Konquest mode and not playable character, which is our case
And about Kh/Chameleon: I believe that I´ve stated somewhere else that giving two characters so similar names isn´t good idea. Especially now, when they should appear together in one game.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:37 pm
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Monster's name was just to show that he wasn't exactly a good guy, I'm sure should he have been playable a more sensible and real name would be included.
His moves (et cetera) I'm sure would be changed as well, that topic's concluded.
Though still, you have to consider he might have just been an aspiration created as a distraction or maybe he was hired to kill Shujinko by a clan with an evil alliance.
When you reanalyze you can guess that maybe he was actually sent by the Elder Gods and after his death Scorpion was chosen. (With that concept of course a story would be more widely appreciated.) We have no concept of his purpose and maybe he should have been a character though he wasn't...
...thus we're left to assume he actually didn't have a purpose, or Midway would have cared to inform us.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:40 pm
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That would make sense, if he was the champion, but shujinko killed him, and the Eldar gods chose the one with fighting styles/moves closest to his, or made a champion based on Scorpion, that was killed, and they just took Scorpion to replace him.
If they put monster in, he probably would be given his own moves, lie, even Noob Saibot and Smoke were given another fighting style each when they were separated. Monster would likely be given oner of Scorpion's fighting styles, not Hapkido as that is what scorpion has.
About the name Monster, ok, it usually would sound sinister but look at other namnes of good characters. Stryker, Nightwolf, do those two names honestly sound like saints? They don't have names you would expect good guys to have, but both are, not only that, but the power of blaze wouldn't corrupt them if they won like it would corrupt Shujnko. (although neither is likely to be it.) The fact is, there is a good chance if what you said about him being sent by the Eldar Gods, he was actually good. sent to stop the Dragon King returning. Maybe on a mission to keep the Kamidogu in a place he could get them, only the ones in the Nexus he needed to travel to realms. Untill he had posession of all 6 and the amulet, which would be hard to get as e would stand no chance against Quan Chi. But if his mission was to get all 7 he needed, then it could avoid recreating TDK. Although, there is no reason the true Champion of The Eldar gods needed to be good. The likes of Havik was evil but he wanted to kill Onaga and revive Kahn to try to bring chaos to realms, although, before anyone says, Havik was just an example of a villain who is enemies with Onaga. I know he would never be the champion of the Eldar Gods as he would not want to serve them.
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Reptile was combo of Scorpion and Sub-Zero, Meat was just an alternate cotumes, Jade was just a faster Kitana, Smoke was a grey Scorpion, and so on. Khameleon and Chameleon themselves are rip-offs too. They're started out as just a combination of ninjas of their gender. |
I didn't see Reptile as a cross between Scorpion and Sub-Zero, I saw Smoke as a cross between Scorpion and Reptile, he could throw a spear like Scorpion and go invisible like Reptile. Where do you see Reptile was a cross between Scorpion and Sub-Zero? Neither of them could go invisible or spit acid.
On the topic of Chamelion, where did he come from? Which game? I honestly can't remember ever seeing him before. I know Khamelion was in the N64 version of MK trillogy, you need to get that 3 button code on the VS screen, but I can't remember ever seeing Chamelion. Was it UMK3?
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