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psyco TMK Defender


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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Jay wrote: | | Goro was once on the good side =) |
he comes across as a bit of a gimp though
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Jay An Empty Shell


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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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In what sense? _________________ Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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maybe because he'd been allied with Shang Tsung and on the side of evil for so long, why the sudden change?
to suit his needs at the time, of course. Kitana offered a way to keep the centaurs off his back with some kind of peace treaty, right? who would turn that down? not to mention, by her offer of peace, I would take that to mean that he had earned her trust, thus making him able to infiltrate the side of light. how better to beat your enemy than by learning how they operate from the inside? as soon as Shao Khan offered him a place at his side... well, you know what they say. a lost dog will always find his way home, or something like that.
I dunno. this is all just my own rambling. if I'm totally off base, let me know, 'cause I'm definitely no Amphibious when it comes to my MK lore. _________________ Nikki: your friendly neighborhood moderator. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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but there's noooo way sheeva was good........... _________________
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Jay An Empty Shell


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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well, from Kitana's ending in Deadly Alliance, I was under the impression that the friendship and peace were genuine.
And like Kabal, having a near death experience made Goro change.
I mean, come on, that's probably the worst shape that Goro was ever in.
And I can see a change with Sheeva because for one, she always hated Centaurs and her master Shao Kahn put him Motaro charge of his armies while she had to babysit Sindel. Also, she was betrayed by Kano and then killed by Kahn. That's reason to hate evil people (maybe even hate evil completely), no? Plus, too add to my argument that near death experiences can change people, she might have either died and was brought back, or somehow survived it, and then comes back good. _________________ Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
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psyco TMK Defender


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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Jay wrote: | | In what sense? |
well he comes along as hard as nails, then you find he just works for shoa khan... someone with that much muscle and twice as many arms and probably a lot taller shouldn't work for someone like shoa khan
and the way he was portrayed in the movie(i know it isn't canon but it kinda hurt his image imo) all this 'yes master' crap, you know?
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Jay An Empty Shell


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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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i think there was a reason why Goro was submissive to Kahn, but I forget what. I'll make it an incentive to find that out. _________________ Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| psyco wrote: | | Jay wrote: | | In what sense? |
well he comes along as hard as nails, then you find he just works for shoa khan... someone with that much muscle and twice as many arms and probably a lot taller shouldn't work for someone like shoa khan
and the way he was portrayed in the movie(i know it isn't canon but it kinda hurt his image imo) all this 'yes master' crap, you know? |
lol yeah thats true goro was a total slave in the movie........ _________________
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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In the movie, it wasn't even Shao Kahn Goro was serving - it was Shang Tsung, who i think is a lesser threat than Kahn. _________________ Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: |
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na, Shang Tsung, is way more powerful, the ability to steal souls is one of the best ability's there is, imo
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| ChibiHana wrote: | | I dunno. this is all just my own rambling. if I'm totally off base, let me know, 'cause I'm definitely no Amphibious when it comes to my MK lore. |
Amphibious is here, have no fear.
During Kahn's attempt to merge Earthrealm and Outworld via the Mortal Kombat tournament, Shang Tsung corrupted the games and started winning consecutively by himself. On his tenth victory, the Great Kung Lao (not to be confused with the one playable in MK2, MK3, MKG, etc) defeated him, thus preventing the merger of the two realms. Shao Kahn was furious, but gave Shang Tsung a second chance.
This time, Tsung was accompanied by the Prince of the Shokan, Goro. In the next tournament, Goro brutally killed the Great Kung Lao and began the next winning streak for the forces of darkness. It wasn't until the Great Kung Lao's descendent, Liu Kang, came around and defeated Goro, on what would have been Shang Tsung's tenth victory (yet again). So, while during this time Goro was in the tournament as Shang Tsung's person body guard as well as fighting champion, he was still serving Shao Kahn. (MK1)
Shao Kahn had begun to favour the Centaurs after Goro and Kintaro's failures (MK1, MK2). Because the Centaurs are long-time rivals of the Shokan, and the Shokan had always been favoured by Kahn up to this point, his favouring of their enemies angered them, big time. Furthermore, with Shao Kahn badly weakened after his failed invasion of Earthrealm (MK3) and the Edenian forces ready to take him down, so the Shokan forming an alliance with them to crush Shao Kahn once and for all was the perfect way to get back at him. The alliance was genuine. (MKG)
During their campaign against the weakened Emperor, Kahn hired Noob Saibot to launch a sneak attack on the Shokan prince.; Goro He was successful, mortally wounding him. The Edenians presumed Goro dead, and their invasion blunted after their loss. (MKDA)
Kahn, who had escaped the assassination attempt of the Deadly Alliance by creating a clone for them to kill, then approached the dying Goro and revived him back to health. After this was done, and Kahn promised to restore the Shokan to be his primary force once more and shun the Centaurs, Goro once again served the Outworld Emperor. (MKD)
So, Goro was only really a "good" guy after Mortal Kombat Gold, but was mortally wounded during the events of MK:Deadly Alliance. By MK:Deception, he was once again serving Shao Kahn.
Hope that helps. _________________

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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
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im lost, why was he a good guy?
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| psyco wrote: | | im lost, why was he a good guy? |
Re-read my post, but I've highlighted the main detail you're looking for:
| Amphibious wrote: | | Shao Kahn had begun to favour the Centaurs after Goro and Kintaro's failures (MK1, MK2). Because the Centaurs are long-time rivals of the Shokan, and the Shokan had always been favoured by Kahn up to this point, his favouring of their enemies angered them, big time. Furthermore, with Shao Kahn badly weakened after his failed invasion of Earthrealm (MK3) and the Edenian forces ready to take him down, so the Shokan forming an alliance with them to crush Shao Kahn once and for all was the perfect way to get back at him. The alliance was genuine. (MKG) |
If that doesn't help, nothing will. _________________
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| Amphibious wrote: | | psyco wrote: | | im lost, why was he a good guy? |
Re-read my post, but I've highlighted the main detail you're looking for:
| Amphibious wrote: | | Shao Kahn had begun to favour the Centaurs after Goro and Kintaro's failures (MK1, MK2). Because the Centaurs are long-time rivals of the Shokan, and the Shokan had always been favoured by Kahn up to this point, his favouring of their enemies angered them, big time. Furthermore, with Shao Kahn badly weakened after his failed invasion of Earthrealm (MK3) and the Edenian forces ready to take him down, so the Shokan forming an alliance with them to crush Shao Kahn once and for all was the perfect way to get back at him. The alliance was genuine. (MKG) |
If that doesn't help, nothing will. |
thanks you answered a very complicated question........ _________________
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, but those are my favourite kind to answer.  _________________
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