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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: Outworld dezians - speculation on their origins |
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Having been playing MK: Shaolin Monks in excess quite a bit along with MK: Deception and MK: Armageddon I find myself once again getting back into the lore and mythology that surrounds the MK universe. One of the questoins that's been coming to mind is what are all of the current species residing in Outworld and are they native to that realm, or were their species part of a realm which was invaded and merged into what is know Outworld?
This is a list I've come up with. Note, while I consider Shaolin Monks what I call "second tier canon" which means only things that are in it which are NOT contradictory to previously established info are canon, everything else is dismissed. So with that in mind, I consider the various "races" seen in that game to be canon, while most of the plot elements are not.
-Outworlders: native (Shao Kahn, Reiko race)
I'm not certain what race Kahn belongs to, or if you can consider there to be an "outworlder" race, but that's my speculation. Since there are also a lot of troops wearing skull masks like Kahn in Outworld and they look much like him and Reiko, and there's also the "Outworlder" selection for a face in Armageddon's kreate-a-character option, I'm assuming they are the original dezians of Outworld even before it started annexing other realms.
-Tarkatin: native? (Baraka's race)
Presumably they're Outworld natives but I don't know. Perhaps their realm was invaded and merged with Outworld, but they seem more like a native species.
-Vampires: non-native; from Vaeternus realm (Nitara's race)
We know from Nitara's MKDA story her race had its own realm but it was merged with Outworld.
-Raptors: non-natives; from Earthrealm, then Zaterra (Reptile's race)
Originally from Earthrealm, they moved to the realm of Zaterra when the Gods were at war which threatened their survival. Zaterra was conquered and merged with Outworld, their population nearly extinct.
-Edendians: non-native, from Edenia (Kitana's race)
We know they are from Edenia which was merged with Outworld but managed to separate after Kahn's failed invasion of Earthrealm.
-Human: non-native, from Earthrealm (Bo Rai Cho, Li Mei's people)
Some humans moved from Earthrealm to Outworld on their own accord.
-Shokan: native? (Goro's race)
We know they were frequently found in the "Cobalt Mines of Shokan" which I'm assuming was located somewhere in Outworld. I don't know if they ever had their own realm or not. We also know they're a race of half dragons, half humans, so who knows?
-Centaurs: native? (Motaro's race)
I'm assuming they're Outworld natives as much as the Shokan are, but perhaps they had their own realm at one point?
-Dragons: non-native? (i.e. Onaga's race, possibly Orin and Caro's species too?)
I don't know what realm Dragons would be native to, I thought Edenia but then Onaga was ruler of Outworld long before Edenia was merged with it, and I'm assuming he was native to Outworld.
-Demons: native? (standard troops in Outworld in MK:SM)
I'm assuming the demon troops seen throughout MK:SM are local dezians of Outworld, but it's possible they were from another realm and just became demons due to being exposed to the corruption of Outworld. Also note that I'm aware these demons are not the same as those from the Neatherrealm. I suppose they're two seperate kinds, since I can't see Neatherrealm troops serving in Shao Kahn's army in a large quantity.
-Putrid Corpse: native? (troops seen in Outworld in MK:SM) I'm going to assume a similar thing with these guys that I assumed with the demons.
So, did I miss any other races? Also, add your comment/speculation here as to which races are native Outworlders (by that I mean they were in Outworld from the beginning, not a realm which was conquered and subsequently merged with Outworld) and which are non-native. _________________
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm assuming that Tarkatin's are native; if I remember correctly Shang Tsung is a Tarkatin that changes his looks with his sorcery (Can't remember exact source on this) and I believe he's been in Outworld for a long time. As for Onaga and the dragons, one could assume that they were the original beings of outword, and humans migrated there, thus leading to the conception of Shokan (Half human, half dragon) _________________
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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As I recall Shang Tsung was a human who was taken in by Shao Kahn and trained in the black arts of soul stealing and such. I don't recall the source of this, either it was one of the games, or the MK movie, or the animated movie, I forget.
Probably the dragons are from Edenia (as seen with Orin and Caro) and humans from Earthrealm, combined made the Shokan, as you said. Still, the idea of a human breeding with a dragon of that size is...perplexing and disturbing, and it doesn't seem to fit. Maybe the "half dragon" is a different kind of dragon from those in Edenia, native to Outworld, I honestly don't know. _________________
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hello
I think it mentions all races native Outworld but there is something that I do not agree with you I am sure that I have read that Shokans and Centauros are natives of Outworld.
if I find where I said what the
link for them to read
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Bah, where's sauce when you need it...
And think of Onaga like dragons; it's still a bit of an interesting thought to be hold, but it's more realistic in terms of mating. Plus, it would explain the body size and features that aren't human like. _________________
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hello
I think that the way it has in Onaga MKD
is not true because if they remember the soul of Onaga entered the body of Repitle that bullet with his grave
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Dl Mario wrote: | Hello
I think that the way it has in Onaga MKD
is not true because if they remember the soul of Onaga entered the body of Repitle that bullet with his grave
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Yes but in Armageddon he is out of Reptiles body and back into his own. His normal body and when he was in Reptile's look the same, since he altered Reptiles to look like his. _________________
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thus my thought is plausable. Your thoughts Amphibious? _________________
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