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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm a bit worried about Rain and Ermac being excluded since they only appeared in UMK3/MKT up until MKD/MKAR, but I'm pretty sure every character who appeared in MKT will appear in this game, whether by default or through DLC. _________________
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Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero Frozen Smoke


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Well Ermac goes as far back as Mortal Kombat 1 to be technical so he may very well be there. Hope they got Smoke as he's been in Mk2 and Mk3 ,Noob i can do without as a trade for Rain. Ed said in an interview that Rain was just trown in at the end of MKT _________________ Frozen Smoke!
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero wrote: | | Well, Ermac was in MK3, so either he will make a apperance as a charecter in the disk, or a DLC. And rainw as also in MK3, so he might bein the disk or as DLC. but I liked Sektor's and Scorpion's Design in MK9 |
| Quote: | | Well Ermac goes as far back as Mortal Kombat 1 to be technical so he may very well be there. Hope they got Smoke as he's been in Mk2 and Mk3 ,Noob i can do without as a trade for Rain. Ed said in an interview that Rain was just trown in at the end of MKT |
.... was ermac in mk 1 no... his first apparence was in UMK3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOtHBiMwehA&feature=related
see... First apperance UMK3[/quote] _________________ You crack me up little buddy
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Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero Frozen Smoke


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:50 am Post subject: |
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... was ermac in mk 1 no... his first apparence was in UMK3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOtHBiMwehA&feature=related
see... First apperance UMK3[/quote]
Sorry but your wrong becouse he was a error that happened to the pallets on the Arcade MK1. An MACRO ERROR would happen sometimes when you chose Scorpion this made him change Red and the name came up as "Ermac" Ed Boon has even said this story many times and everyone knows about it besides you. "Ermac" is the error diagnosis code for Error Macro telling you somethings not right. Becouse of the real secret fighter Reptile all the fans started going crazy saying it's another fighter ,some even thought they knew how to do it. Ed said that it was just an error in many inteviews but becouse of the hype they made him a real fighter(Its what the fans want). Ask Luke (TMK) the admin of this site he has even said and knows all about it on his You Tube video's. So like i said in my comment to be technical Ermac was in MK1 ,also stop being such a little ass to everone you dont make it far in life acting like a spoiled little bratt!
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Iced smoke! _________________ Frozen Smoke!
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deathrider TMK Power Overwhelming


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero wrote: | | Well Ermac goes as far back as Mortal Kombat 1 to be technical so he may very well be there. Hope they got Smoke as he's been in Mk2 and Mk3 ,Noob i can do without as a trade for Rain. Ed said in an interview that Rain was just trown in at the end of MKT |
I could defo see Smoke making an appearance. The big question is will he be human or cyber? We could argue about how they could be two seperate costumes for him, but wouldn't that mean two seperate moves lists too? The same applies for the original Subby/ Noob situation.
Although Rain was just chucked in for good measure, he was still there. Characters have evolved from less (Ermac, as you've mentioned, and even Blaze), so I can't see why Rain shouldn't be given a fair chance to become a real MK character. _________________ Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen!
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Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero Frozen Smoke


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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I could defo see Smoke making an appearance. The big question is will he be human or cyber? We could argue about how they could be two seperate costumes for him, but wouldn't that mean two seperate moves lists too? The same applies for the original Subby/ Noob situation.
Although Rain was just chucked in for good measure, he was still there. Characters have evolved from less (Ermac, as you've mentioned, and even Blaze), so I can't see why Rain shouldn't be given a fair chance to become a real MK character.[/quote]
Yes well that is the question as for the costume change i dont think that will be such a problem(MKT they had new moves list too) as ,they had that for Smoke on UMK3 and MKT with other fighters too. Human Smoke doesnt have many moves and not well thought out ,but Robo on the other hand can be leathal. I would like Robo but rather have a costume swap option.
Sub-Zero well i can never make my mind up becouse unmasked with the ice clone and shower out of MK3 is one of my favorite MK fighters of all time. On the other hand the Original Sub is the one that got me into MK so i want a costume swap for Sub too
Noob and Rain: Well i never likes Noob as i always thought he lives up to his name a Noob ,too easy to use and his S moves are sorta cheap hit's. I used to make a rule that no one can use Noob with my mates. As for Rain i would like him to be there but i just dont know if they will. The word going around is that its MK1-3 rebirth and at that time like i said he dindt really have a story line ,just trown in. Rain is good tho _________________ Frozen Smoke!
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Xplosi TMK Kid Thunder


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry but your wrong becouse he was a error that happened to the pallets on the Arcade MK1. An MACRO ERROR would happen sometimes when you chose Scorpion this made him change Red and the name came up as "Ermac" Ed Boon has even said this story many times and everyone knows about it besides you. "Ermac" is the error diagnosis code for Error Macro telling you somethings not right. Becouse of the real secret fighter Reptile all the fans started going crazy saying it's another fighter ,some even thought they knew how to do it. Ed said that it was just an error in many inteviews but becouse of the hype they made him a real fighter(Its what the fans want). Ask Luke (TMK) the admin of this site he has even said and knows all about it on his You Tube video's. So like i said in my comment to be technical Ermac was in MK1 ,also stop being such a little ass to everone you dont make it far in life acting like a spoiled little bratt!
Thanks!
Iced smoke![/quote]
sigh.... i know what ermac stands for i am a student in IT-softwares
and it in MK1
it says ermacs (insert number) in the diagnosis screen
and please dont call me spolied mate
and TBH i dont ean to sound like a douche mate it just happens _________________ You crack me up little buddy
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icewinddale1 The Winter Witch


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero wrote: | I could defo see Smoke making an appearance. The big question is will he be human or cyber? We could argue about how they could be two seperate costumes for him, but wouldn't that mean two seperate moves lists too? The same applies for the original Subby/ Noob situation.
Although Rain was just chucked in for good measure, he was still there. Characters have evolved from less (Ermac, as you've mentioned, and even Blaze), so I can't see why Rain shouldn't be given a fair chance to become a real MK character. |
Yes well that is the question as for the costume change i dont think that will be such a problem(MKT they had new moves list too) as ,they had that for Smoke on UMK3 and MKT with other fighters too. Human Smoke doesnt have many moves and not well thought out ,but Robo on the other hand can be leathal. I would like Robo but rather have a costume swap option.
Sub-Zero well i can never make my mind up becouse unmasked with the ice clone and shower out of MK3 is one of my favorite MK fighters of all time. On the other hand the Original Sub is the one that got me into MK so i want a costume swap for Sub too
Noob and Rain: Well i never likes Noob as i always thought he lives up to his name a Noob ,too easy to use and his S moves are sorta cheap hit's. I used to make a rule that no one can use Noob with my mates. As for Rain i would like him to be there but i just dont know if they will. The word going around is that its MK1-3 rebirth and at that time like i said he dindt really have a story line ,just trown in. Rain is good tho[/quote]
Even though I played MK1 when I was very young it was MK3 that made me the MK fan I am today so I prefer Sub-Zero unmasked and as the younger brother.
I'm more inclined to say that Smoke will be human. The demand for a human Smoke has been around in the MK Kommunity since MK3 it appears in forums all the time and in fan fic and fan art. Since this game seems to be more focused towards the fans and us old schoolers I think we'll see a human Smoke besides three Cyberninjas is way too many. On a side note does anyone think elder Sub would sell his brother out to the Lin Kuei for cyber conversion to save his own skin? He seems ruthless enough. _________________ His approach will be as silent as new fallen snow...his attack as fierce as winter's blizzard...his devastation as brutal as winter's relentless chill...he is complete (Lin Kuei Grandmaster)
So fair... yet so cold... like a morning of pale spring still clinging to winter's chill (Grima Wormtongue)
In the depths of Winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invinsible summer (Albert Camus)
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deathrider TMK Power Overwhelming


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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But if Sektor is already automated, does that mean that Smoke will also be cyber? _________________ Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen!
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| deathrider wrote: | | But if Sektor is already automated, does that mean that Smoke will also be cyber? |
yeah that or smoke will be like the one in MKD KA but better costume and graphics _________________ You crack me up little buddy
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icewinddale1 The Winter Witch


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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Depends IF he had returned to the Lin Kuei at the time in his MK3 bio Smoke was...
Smoke, unit LK-7T2, is the third prototype cyber-ninja built by the Lin Kuei. He tried to escape the automation process with Sub-Zero but was captured. His memories were stripped away, leaving behind an emotionless killer. However, Sub-Zero believes that within this machine is a human soul trying to escape.
Assuming that Cyrax and Sektor never left the Lin Kuei they would both be converted. If Smoke attended the MK2 tournament and never returned to HQ he probably wouldn't be converted. However that depends on his bio for MK2 and if he was an undiscovered character for MK1. If he's supposed to have attended the MK1 tournament and elder Sub-Zero survived then he would be with him during the newer events of this game. I can't see elder Sub-Zero returning to the Lin Kuei without assinating Shang Tsung dishonour meaning death. If elder Sub-Zero is not killed by Scorpion at MK1 then there's no reason for younger Sub-Zero to be dispatched for MK2 or for Smoke to go with him. Unfortunately on the little info available to us that leaves me to conclude that younger Sub-Zero will be automated and Smoke will be human. Amphibious what are your thought here I've never known Smoke's story very well.
Also what changes will that make tp Scorpion's story? The obvious one is he wouldn't slay his enemy. _________________ His approach will be as silent as new fallen snow...his attack as fierce as winter's blizzard...his devastation as brutal as winter's relentless chill...he is complete (Lin Kuei Grandmaster)
So fair... yet so cold... like a morning of pale spring still clinging to winter's chill (Grima Wormtongue)
In the depths of Winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invinsible summer (Albert Camus)
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Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero Frozen Smoke


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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:30 am Post subject: |
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sigh.... i know what ermac stands for i am a student in IT-softwares
and it in MK1
it says ermacs (insert number) in the diagnosis screen
and please dont call me spolied mate
and TBH i dont ean to sound like a douche mate it just happens[/quote]
sigh...? Ok whatever thats all about ,i dont think you understand my point. You said my comment was wrong when it clearly wasnt then you use the excuse that you know alot about IT. What does that have to do with anything i said? _________________ Frozen Smoke!
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Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero Frozen Smoke


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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Robo smoke has much better moves and combo's then human smoke ,well in mk3/umk3. Human smoke back then never had any real decent moves or combo's so to me he was a bit weak. Robo smoke is leathal tho and can cave heads in a matter of seconds. _________________ Frozen Smoke!
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Johnny(TM) The Hungarian Outsider


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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Can I ask where was it mentioned that old sub is noob? So far I only noticed a hint in Shaolin Monks, but that's all. But remember, even if old sub might be the one you say, but with time travel, this could be more complex. You see, you might complain with the fact that young sub has the scar, and in SM we saw why get it, but that's all... it COULD be the old sub, but COULD be also the young sub.
So back to the question: where else was mentioned, that old sub is possibly noob?
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| Sub-Robo-Smoke-Zero wrote: | | All that stuff he said about Ermac |
Actually, that "error Macro" thing you were reffereing to was actually just a rumor. There was no Error Macro. I was made up by the fans and, because it seemed so plausible, people believed it. The MK Team liked the rumor so much that they put him in UMK3.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWOnvOWexqQ _________________
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