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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: Is Liu Kang the descendant of the Great Kung Lao? |
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Alright, so I've been going through character biographies from all of the games and trying to determine if Liu Kang's ancestor is the original Kung Lao, who was killed by Goro 500 years ago.
There is nothing in any of the biographies or endings from MK1-MKT that establishes Liu Kang as the descendant of the original Kung Lao. This leads me to believe that the concept was introduced in the first Mortal Kombat movie. With this in mind it would seem to be a clear-cut case that in the game canon Liu Kang is not the descendant of the Great Kung Lao. However, Goro's MK4 biography says:
"Goro took the Mortal Kombat title from the original Kung Lao, only to have it won from him nine generations later by Lao's ancestor, Liu Kang.
This is where my confusion starts. Aside from Goro's MK4 bio, nothing in the game universe establishes Liu Kang as the ancestor of the Great Kung Lao, whereas the games clearly establish present-day Kung Lao as the descendant of his namesake. So, should we disregard this bit of Goro's biography, or is Liu Kang the ancestor of the Great Kung Lao (along with the present-day Kung Lao)?
As an aside, I don't consider Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks part of the same canon as the main game series because it has a lot of mistakes with the storyline which can't really be reconciled into the main canon. _________________
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmm...very interesting. I really can't think of what to think of all this. Hopefully with the new game involving time travel, maybe it can fully establish this topic.
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: |
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The time travel seems to only go back as far as MK1, so I doubt it'll be covered in the upcoming game. _________________
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm...well, it would be nice if they included someting extra to sort out this problem. Maybe a little extra in the Krypt maybe?
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icewinddale1 The Winter Witch


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I would like to see some extra detail filled out in the Krypt perhaps an image of King Jerrod always been curious about him _________________ His approach will be as silent as new fallen snow...his attack as fierce as winter's blizzard...his devastation as brutal as winter's relentless chill...he is complete (Lin Kuei Grandmaster)
So fair... yet so cold... like a morning of pale spring still clinging to winter's chill (Grima Wormtongue)
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Regarding Liu Kang's ancestry (in the game canon), I guess you could say he's more of a distant ancestor of the Great Kung Lao than the present day Kung Lao, who in the game continuity has always been played up as the descendant of his namesake. Again, aside from Goro's MK4/MKG bio, I have not found anything in the game canon stating Liu Kang is the ancestor of the original Kung Lao, which is kind of odd.
| icewinddale1 wrote: | | I would like to see some extra detail filled out in the Krypt perhaps an image of King Jerrod always been curious about him |
In the non-canon Kitana & Mileena comic by Malibu you get to see King Jerrod and his demise. You can read the whole issue online here: http://www.kamidogu.com/gallery/comics/kitanamileena.php?issue=1&page=0 _________________
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks that's one of the few comics I haven't got yet. _________________ His approach will be as silent as new fallen snow...his attack as fierce as winter's blizzard...his devastation as brutal as winter's relentless chill...he is complete (Lin Kuei Grandmaster)
So fair... yet so cold... like a morning of pale spring still clinging to winter's chill (Grima Wormtongue)
In the depths of Winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invinsible summer (Albert Camus)
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Amphibious wrote: | Regarding Liu Kang's ancestry (in the game canon), I guess you could say he's more of a distant ancestor of the Great Kung Lao than the present day Kung Lao, who in the game continuity has always been played up as the descendant of his namesake. Again, aside from Goro's MK4/MKG bio, I have not found anything in the game canon stating Liu Kang is the ancestor of the original Kung Lao, which is kind of odd.
| icewinddale1 wrote: | | I would like to see some extra detail filled out in the Krypt perhaps an image of King Jerrod always been curious about him |
In the non-canon Kitana & Mileena comic by Malibu you get to see King Jerrod and his demise. You can read the whole issue online here: http://www.kamidogu.com/gallery/comics/kitanamileena.php?issue=1&page=0 |
After you mentioned it I reviewed the bios and ending myself you are right. I would have to say it's non-canon yes it is in the bios but it's not mentioned anywhere else while Kung Lao's ancestry is mentioned every single bloody time his bio comes up as if we would forget. Can anyone tell me if Liu Kang's descent is mentioned in Shaolin Monks otherwise I'm going to have to replay it to find out. I know it's non-canon but I'm wondering if it appears anywhere else except for a couple of bios and the MK movie.
Ok found the cutscenes on Youtube they refer to honouring Liu Kang's forefathers and Kung Lao's Family so looks like they covered all the bases there. _________________ His approach will be as silent as new fallen snow...his attack as fierce as winter's blizzard...his devastation as brutal as winter's relentless chill...he is complete (Lin Kuei Grandmaster)
So fair... yet so cold... like a morning of pale spring still clinging to winter's chill (Grima Wormtongue)
In the depths of Winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invinsible summer (Albert Camus)
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Amphibious The Shadowy Usurper


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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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In the non-canon MK:SM, Liu Kang's ancestor was not the Great Kung Lao, but some unnamed guy who, according to two spirits, fought with the Great Kung Lao because of disagreements or something. You see that during the cutscene after you defeat Baraka.
I don't want to disregard Goro's MK4/MKG bio, which references Liu Kang as the descendant of the Great Kung Lao, but at the same time it seems like that part was a mistake given the biography of the present-day Kung Lao. For the moment I'm going to assume both Kang and Lao are descendants of the original Kung Lao, though Kang is more of a distant descendant. _________________
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Amphibious wrote: | In the non-canon MK:SM, Liu Kang's ancestor was not the Great Kung Lao, but some unnamed guy who, according to two spirits, fought with the Great Kung Lao because of disagreements or something. You see that during the cutscene after you defeat Baraka.
I don't want to disregard Goro's MK4/MKG bio, which references Liu Kang as the descendant of the Great Kung Lao, but at the same time it seems like that part was a mistake given the biography of the present-day Kung Lao. For the moment I'm going to assume both Kang and Lao are descendants of the original Kung Lao, though Kang is more of a distant descendant. |
Well I hope they clarify it perhaps produce Kung Lao's family tree I bet he would have one above his bed. _________________ His approach will be as silent as new fallen snow...his attack as fierce as winter's blizzard...his devastation as brutal as winter's relentless chill...he is complete (Lin Kuei Grandmaster)
So fair... yet so cold... like a morning of pale spring still clinging to winter's chill (Grima Wormtongue)
In the depths of Winter I finally learned that within me there lay an invinsible summer (Albert Camus)
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Id prefer for Liu Kang not to be a direct descendant of The Great Kung Lao and for modern day Kung Lao to be his true descendant. Also I would like for Kung Lao to be pushed more into the spotlight than Kang this time.
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| the-original-razer wrote: | Id prefer for Liu Kang not to be a direct descendant of The Great Kung Lao and for modern day Kung Lao to be his true descendant. Also I would like for Kung Lao to be pushed more into the spotlight than Kang this time.
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Well, since we haven't seen Liu Kang in the trailer for MK9/8, then maybe they are trying to push for more Kung Lao. Plus, if Kang was a descendant, wouldn't he have at least part of the name of Kung Lao?
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