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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:28 am
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Just like Johnny Cage has the red shadow kick, Liu Kang has a red bicycle kick, they aren't really special, just go further across screen, and do less damage. Sometimes in MK2 Johnny Cage would do a red shadow kick and Raiden's electric buzz noise would go off.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:35 am
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| CorrezZio wrote: | | I've tried the combo you use in Umk3 rev. 1.1, and the arrow DOES come out fast. I'm not calling you a liar, but maybe you are mistaking. |
nah man, this is fresh in my mind, I was doing it like 1 week before this post was made. It didnt come out fast for me, ill make a video of it if It does it all the time...my cousin has a camera
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I do not know if this is rumour but some people said that there is a secret move of Nightwolf that turns opponent in to stone that takes a lot more time to break than the ice and does a lot of damage when broken by Nightwolf's axe, but I never seen it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:46 am
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| Ninja_Sher wrote: | | I do not know if this is rumour but some people said that there is a secret move of Nightwolf that turns opponent in to stone that takes a lot more time to break than the ice and does a lot of damage when broken by Nightwolf's axe, but I never seen it. |
Dude that's just pathetic. Anyway, here is each and every way to get a fast arrow in UMK3:
opponent not blocking:
standing HP, cancel to fast arrow
standing LP, cancel to fast arrow
standing HK, cancel to fast arrow
uppercut, fast arrow as they get up
roundhouse, fast arrow as they get up
axe uppercut, fast arrow
combo with axe uppercut, fast arrow
HK, HK, B+HK, fast arrow as they get up
sweep, fast arrow
jump kick, fast arrow
jump punch, fast arrow
straight up jump kick, fast arrow
straight up jump punch, fast arrow
arrow, fast arrow (when opponent is on the opposite side of the screen) =P
opponent blocking:
standing HP, cancel to fast arrow
standing LP, cancel to fast arrow
ducking LP, cancel to fast arrow
opponent in air:
standing HP, cancel to fast arrow
standing LP, cancel to fast arrow
standing HK, cancel to fast arrow
uppercut, fast arrow as they get up
roundhouse, fast arrow as they get up
axe uppercut, fast arrow
sweep, fast arrow
jump kick, fast arrow
jump punch, fast arrow
straight up jump kick, fast arrow
straight up jump punch, fast arrow
ducking HK, fast arrow
ducking LP fast arrow
standing LK fast arrow
arrow, fast arrow (anywhere)
That is over 30 examples of how to get Nightwolf to do the fast arrow.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:39 am
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| EWAShock wrote: | | Ninja_Sher wrote: | | I do not know if this is rumour but some people said that there is a secret move of Nightwolf that turns opponent in to stone that takes a lot more time to break than the ice and does a lot of damage when broken by Nightwolf's axe, but I never seen it. |
Dude that's just pathetic. Anyway, here is each and every way to get a fast arrow in UMK3:
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:07 am
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What you said was utter nonsense and doesn't really even deserve a second thought.
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Are you suggesting secret moves are non-sense, that is really pathetic.
Especially if you are talking about MKTril. I found many of kano's secret moves that you would only dream about.
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You are a pathological liar, your comments have no basis in reality, and you have not found any secret moves in any MK game, ever.
You make me want to 
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:57 am
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Now you are flamming.
Anyway for your kind information I said I heard and beleive me as I could really show you if you come in front of me that there are a lot of secret moves in the MK3 and afterwards versions.
If you are not out of your mind you would now take back your pathetic vomit.
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You are still lying. On any MK board if you posted a topic called "Nightwolf's secret stone smash move!" and then proceeded to explain it, the thread would be closed immediately because everyone knows it's not true. You yourself said you have found secret moves in MKT that I would only "dream" about. These are lies and lies must be challenged. Whoever told you about the Nightwolf stone break move lied to you, and you are lying about "secret" moves. I don't know who the Hell you think you are, but you've never found any moves in MKT that weren't listed officially. There were moves added to UMK3 and MKT, like Kano's upward and crazy cannonball, but that's it, added moves, not moves people had to play the game and experiment with to find as secrets. This is why I will not take back my vomit. You are either busting my chops, or have no idea what you're talking about. Either way, it's becoming increasingly more apparent to me that few and far between post with any serious level of knowledge of MK on totalmortalkombat.com, even the mods.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:42 am
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Hey hold up a second!
I think the fact that you envolve all the "mods" on this forum over this idiots comment is totaly unfair. the totalmortalkombat.com board is for everyone, even idiots. If you think someone is lying or wrong, make a post and proove it. But don't go around bitching about the forum and the mods who have nothing to do with this arguement.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:15 am
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It seems as if no matter what I do, I cannot be right about obvious things. This isn't the first time something preposterous has been said in here, or any other MK forum, and I've tried to set it straight, but the lack of knowledgeable people is ridiculous. I'm including the whole Nightwolf Arrow thing on this and you were involved with that and it amazes me how far that had to go to get people understand the real properties of the move, something that never EVER should have been debated in the first place. It's one thing to post questions but uncertainties, but the blatant disreguard for the truth is another thing entirely.
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Hey you are not a good listener ( well theoretically ), I said I do not know about it is a rumour or not and asked for some expert opinions and you convict me of lying; is not this ridiculous?
One more thing did they make "Old kano" moves official?
If not then they really are secret moves.
One more thing, in MK4 the secret characters moves are not given. And do you know how to freeze opponent using Subzero's ice wand?
They admitted it themselves that Midway kept a lot of things unofficial.
Or is it so that I can not ask about anything out here that I am not sure of?
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EWAShock: fine I will post a video of me doing it on my arcade machine.
Watch this space.
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This has gotten beyond ridiculous.
I said asking about a rumor is one thing, but to out and out lie about secret moves is just dumb. MK1 Kano's added move, like his knife spin is a plain old added move you could have found out about in any video game magazine before the game was even released. Ninja, the way you talk about MK is as if you started playing like a month ago when the games have been out for a decade.
So I suppose any added move in the history of MK now can be officially called "secret?" No. They have all been documented. If all you meant was "new moves" and not "secret moves" then you REALLY need to learn how to word things properly because for all intents and purposes, you could have been talking about moves like Nightwolf's stone break, and not, his faster quicker shoulder tackle which you mentioned earlier.
For the record. No hidden undocumented original moves exist in any MK game that aren't glitches of moves already known.
TotalMK, you have missed the boat on this countless times in this thread. Your example of Nightwolf's arrow is a credible example, I just said that it has to hit the person in order for it to work, your first post didn't seem like that had to be part of the equation, but I realized it was inferred. Then you directly said that it doesn't come out in the axe combo, which is 100% untrue, and I listed about 30 different ways to perform the "fast arrow" including your original example. This is about how and why the fast arrow happens, not whether or not your one example is right. You corrected me by adding a specific example? No, you just added an example, but it's not the only reason why.
Right now, the message I get from you is:
The fast arrow only happens when you hit someone on the other side of the screen with a normal one first and there is no other way to make it happen besides that.
But I gave you an example of how to get it when the person is right next to you. Make them jump, do an arrow on their way down, they land on it, then do another one as they get up and that second arrow will be fast. You can have your back to the wall and this will work.
It is plain and simple. The only time you can get a fast arrow is when your opponent is in frames of animation they do control other then stance or ducking frames.
And I thought the MK5.org Ermac thread got silly.
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