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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:00 am Post subject: |
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"Of course it's not a success because it's cheaper. Do you really think Nintendo are so kind fellows and are selling it cheap because they like their customers? They're selling it cheap because GCN is not competive with X-Box and PS2 having the same price tag."
Selling a cheaper console still generates huge amounts of sales, the game Zelda was enough to sell millions of consoles worldwide.
"Don't get upset about the "kiddie" console argument. You can give me all the "exceptions" you want BUT: those exceptions are just that - exceptions AND they're far from being the main type of products for GC. There is no smoke without fire and the opinion about GC being for kids hasn't arisen just out of nowhere. Publishers and developers don't really want to make games for GC because they know that and because they know that most mature people know that and they know that a more adult audience want more adult games. That simple."
Im not upset, your argument is just flawed. What you are saying, is that because GC has Kids games, its a kids console. So why exclude XBOX and PS2 they have kids games as well...the same as GC! Crash Bandicoot, Abe's Odyssey ect... and as for publisher making games, sure GC has had a rough time...but its not because of that, they would rather back MS because of the financial backing and PS2 because its already been well established way before GC and XBOX.
"As for the graphics - I've seen GC in action and either looks noticeably worse than X-Box or comparably good, never better. Besides, there're not that many interesting games that come across all platforms to compare, GC nearly always is left out. If Mario or Zelda is your idea of superb graphics, then have fun, but don't expect any other serious games to appear on your shelf."
This is a load of tripe, you have an untrained eye for real graphic detail...you probly dont even know what SLI is.
"As for DVD thingie: GCN version of MKDA lacked in some extras precisely because of that. You can give it as many roundabout as you wish but it won't change much: minidisk's capacity is lower than the one of a standard DVD - big games (read good games) may have problems with it."
The GC NTSC version of MK:DA had the exact same amount of extras as the PS2 and XBOX versions The PAL version was missing 1 video "Baraka's Demise" agian, you are miss informed.
"Are you taking a perverse satisfaction by opposing the obvious thing? Ask anyone more or less informed and not biased and they'll tell you that GCN is the weakest of the three consoles. Period."
I have been gaming for 12 years. I don't need anyone to tell me, I have seen it all, and ask anyone in the gaming feild the graphics that GC produce and just as good if not BETTER than XBOX and PS2.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: |
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OK, OK, before I go to bed, tell me one thing ... if GCN is so amazingly good ... why is it so crappy? Is there an evil plan behind it or something?
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: |
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(Also, PS2 gets HUGE amount of games, among them there are games that can be called "kiddie" and a lot that are for adults. GCN doesn't get nearly as many titles and among them there is only a fraction you could call "Mature". X-Box doesn't get that many titles either, but it is more focused on more adult games straigt away. That's why GCN is considered to be "kiddie" and PS2 and X-Box are not).
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:14 am Post subject: |
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"OK, OK, before I go to bed, tell me one thing ... if GCN is so amazingly good ... why is it so crappy? Is there an evil plan behind it or something?"
only idiots say its crappy.
"(Also, PS2 gets HUGE amount of games, among them there are games that can be called "kiddie" and a lot that are for adults. GCN doesn't get nearly as many titles and among them there is only a fraction you could call "Mature". X-Box doesn't get that many titles either, but it is more focused on more adult games straigt away. That's why GCN is considered to be "kiddie" and PS2 and X-Box are not)."
OK Name 20 GC games besides if you are convinced thats ALL they make. and I will match that number with games rated M15+
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Total-MK wrote: | yeah....right
if its a "kids console" like everyone says, how come all the Resident Evil games came out on GC....and MK:DA, Medal Of Honor....the list goes on.
As for Peformance, GC is better than XBOX and PS2. It process's the graphics at a smoother rate, and renders the graphics better.
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Cause capcom signed a contract, and its over cause outbreak is coming out for the ps2. nintendo just wanted more sells.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Oh, but it is crappy. It doesn't get the better of multiplatform titles and those it has as exclusive can barely be considered masterpieces. So what if there are titles rated "M" if nobody playes them? You didn't get the point. Adult oriented games are NOT the kind of games Nintendo are dedicated to ... or maybe you'll be so arrogant and say that's not true either?
But hey, if you're happy with your GC, stick with it and I'll be happy for you. Maybe one day you'll realise it's not all that great and maybe even not - better for you.
(A question appart: if you were offered a console plus 40 games of your choice for free, with no right of reselling them, nor making gifts to others ... just for your personal usage. AND no right to have any other console. Which of the three would you choose? (No need to answer me, answer to yourself)).
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:30 am Post subject: |
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"Oh, but it is crappy. It doesn't get the better of multiplatform titles and those it has as exclusive can barely be considered masterpieces. So what if there are titles rated "M" if nobody playes them? You didn't get the point. Adult oriented games are NOT the kind of games Nintendo are dedicated to ... or maybe you'll be so arrogant and say that's not true either?"
You didnt give me a list, whats the matter...affraid im right?
btw: thats not true.
"(A question appart: if you were offered a console plus 40 games of your choice for free, with no right of reselling them, nor making gifts to others ... just for your personal usage. AND no right to have any other console. Which of the three would you choose? (No need to answer me, answer to yourself))."
Gamecube, the graphics and peformance is better.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:41 am Post subject: |
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I didn't give you a list of 20 games, because I'm afraid GC doesn't have that many. On a serious note: I obviously am not deeply into GC life. I check different sites and boards where games for all consoles show up. Good games on GC show up V-E-R-Y rarely and most of them are either multiplatform or of children oriented content. As always, there are exceptions, but I don't like the idea of living a life and waiting for that rare and wonderful exception. Or maybe you have an underground community and get some jewels there outsiders never get the opportunity to see? If so, I'm joining!
It is true.
A super-computer certainly has a better performance than a GC (or maybe that's not true either?) but I somehow doubt there is a single game for them. I'd choose PS2 having some doubts about X-Box. Here you have it - "worst" performance and "worst" graphics, still - the best console (and sales show it ... or it's not true either?).
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: |
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"I didn't give you a list of 20 games, because I'm afraid GC doesn't have that many."
Exactly, it doesnt have that many, no more or less that PS2 or XBOX has of kiddy games. there for the term "kiddy console" is not applicable.
"I'd choose PS2 having some doubts about X-Box. Here you have it - "worst" performance and "worst" graphics, still - the best console (and sales show it ... or it's not true either?)."
Well gee...do you think a console that was on the market 2 years before XBOX and GC would sell more....gee it isn't rocket scence.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Give me a list of 10 adult games on GC that are successful (and not some crap noone knows about and noone plays).
PS2's sales have nothing to do with the fact it came out earlier, wise boy ... and you know that and if you don't, bad for you.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Of course coming out that much sooner helped it get that many sales, are you saying people had the choice of buying a PS2 when it first ame out but decided to wait for the X-Box and GCN just to make them look inferior, Granted it may still have the most sales if it came out around the same time, but they would be nowhere near as many as they have now. _________________ http://RPSComic.cjb.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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"PS2's sales have nothing to do with the fact it came out earlier" - Words of an idiot.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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"PS2's sales have nothing to do with the fact it came out earlier" - Words of an idiot. <-- Words of an ignorant kid.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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The GC is the weakest.
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| mkfreak wrote: | | The GC is the weakest. |
what do you mean by weakest, what the fuck do you know about consoles...
Oh and AINTD give me a list of 10 mature games that did well on ps2...ill give you GTA3 and Vice city, give me 8 more without looking it up on a site... _________________
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