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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:29 am
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Well so far I hate the fact that Sub-Zero died at the hands of Noob-Smoke, but I dont blame Smoke bcoz Noob programmed Smoke to obey him(noob). But Noob, God how sadistic on what he did.
im not a sub-zero fan or anything but i hope subby lives in the next MK installment... 
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noob as sub-zero in mk1 is cool but sub-zero dieing is bad... 
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:30 pm
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| shadowninja4 wrote: | | Well so far I hate the fact that Sub-Zero died at the hands of Noob-Smoke, but I dont blame Smoke bcoz Noob programmed Smoke to obey him(noob). But Noob, God how sadistic on what he did. |
Well you can't really go for that unless Nether Realm power corrupted Smoke already. Cause remember, Smoke still retained his soul somehow, which is why he wouldn't kill Sub Zero. So theres no telling why Smoke killed Sub Zero, I doubt Noob's programming was completely overriding his soul and succeeding where the Lin Kuei failed. It had to be, like with Noob, the Nether Realm's influence
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| Warrior of Zaterra wrote: |
Well you can't really go for that unless Nether Realm power corrupted Smoke already. Cause remember, Smoke still retained his soul somehow, which is why he wouldn't kill Sub Zero. So theres no telling why Smoke killed Sub Zero, I doubt Noob's programming was completely overriding his soul and succeeding where the Lin Kuei failed. It had to be, like with Noob, the Nether Realm's influence |
yep the netherrealm surely tainted smoke
cause in the noob-smoke ending it says that noobs' soul had been tainted when he died at the hand of scorpion, he then descended into Netherrealm free from compassion...
and if this can happen to his own brother (now noob), why not to his best friend
and just look at shujinko too, he also was tainted by the netherrealm while he stayed there...
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:28 am
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Smoke is not a human anymore, so how come he can be tainted even though he is in his cyborg form, damn, and here i thought here would ally himself with Sub-zero. 
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Smoke still has a soul that can be tainted by the Netherrealm. Sektor and Cyrax don't have one, and yet Smoke somehow retained his. That's why he can be influenced down there.
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shadowninja4
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:16 pm
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so it means that Smoke's soul is trapped in that cyborg body of his??
But when Noob found him lying around deactivated inside Shao K.'s castle/fortress, does it mean that his soul is trapped in that machine of a body??
poor smoke 
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:49 pm
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| shadowninja4 wrote: | so it means that Smoke's soul is trapped in that cyborg body of his??
But when Noob found him lying around deactivated inside Shao K.'s castle/fortress, does it mean that his soul is trapped in that machine of a body??
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Yes, yes and yes...Smoke is bound to that body right now
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I personaly like the idea of the Noob Smoke on the same team...I do hope that for MK 7 they seperate these two in the playable menu, just for the simple fact that due to MKD both of these characters are just that much more powerful and the MK team has opened the flood gates on the possible story idea's for both Noob and Smoke.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:07 am
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*sigh* the soul continues to wander this shell of evil how i pity smoke.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:25 am
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For the record, I can imagine Smoke's soul not being tainted by the Netherrealm. The half mechanical nature could have a reversal effect, since Smoke isn't exactly organic anymore.
| Warrior of Zaterra wrote: | | I think they are too well acquainted with one another since they both live in the Netherrealm. Plus how could one or the other really destroy their enemy, they are spectres |
Noob is a Wraith, not a Spectre. From the looks of the ending, it doesn't look like Noob will avenge his death, since he has all these other plans, like trying to rule Netherrealm. Maybe his soul was tainted to the point of forgetting his vendetta with Scorpion...and just wants to plainly kill anyone undesirable, if they ever got in his way.
Then again...that would be boring, though. Surely he'd remember why he died in the first place. We won't really know. For now.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:50 am
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| ScorpionVision wrote: | | For the record, I can imagine Smoke's soul not being tainted by the Netherrealm. The half mechanical nature could have a reversal effect, since Smoke isn't exactly organic anymore. |
I don't think the mechanical side of Smoke would be capable of protecting his soul. If sorcerors and even Ermac are incapable of maintaining their power without soul stones, I doubt the toxic effect of the Netherrealm could be warded off by sheer mechanics. The very fact that he has a soul is his weakness in that realm.
| ScorpionVision wrote: | Noob is a Wraith, not a Spectre. From the looks of the ending, it doesn't look like Noob will avenge his death, since he has all these other plans, like trying to rule Netherrealm. Maybe his soul was tainted to the point of forgetting his vendetta with Scorpion...and just wants to plainly kill anyone undesirable, if they ever got in his way.
Then again...that would be boring, though. Surely he'd remember why he died in the first place. We won't really know. For now. |
If what you say is true, then Noob should've recognized Sub Zero has his brother, and Smoke should've recognized that Sub Zero was his friend. But they didn't. If Noob, a former Lin Kuei warrior, can become tainted from his time in the Netherrealm, then surely Smoke can as well.
I do however agree that he could've just forgotten everything about his former life. If Shujinko could immediately be tainted by stepping through the portal, then any being who has a prolonged stay would no doubt become corrupted and probably forget his former life.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:40 am
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| Warrior of Zaterra wrote: | | ScorpionVision wrote: | | For the record, I can imagine Smoke's soul not being tainted by the Netherrealm. The half mechanical nature could have a reversal effect, since Smoke isn't exactly organic anymore. |
I don't think the mechanical side of Smoke would be capable of protecting his soul. If sorcerors and even Ermac are incapable of maintaining their power without soul stones, I doubt the toxic effect of the Netherrealm could be warded off by sheer mechanics. The very fact that he has a soul is his weakness in that realm.
| ScorpionVision wrote: | Noob is a Wraith, not a Spectre. From the looks of the ending, it doesn't look like Noob will avenge his death, since he has all these other plans, like trying to rule Netherrealm. Maybe his soul was tainted to the point of forgetting his vendetta with Scorpion...and just wants to plainly kill anyone undesirable, if they ever got in his way.
Then again...that would be boring, though. Surely he'd remember why he died in the first place. We won't really know. For now. |
If what you say is true, then Noob should've recognized Sub Zero has his brother, and Smoke should've recognized that Sub Zero was his friend. But they didn't. If Noob, a former Lin Kuei warrior, can become tainted from his time in the Netherrealm, then surely Smoke can as well.
I do however agree that he could've just forgotten everything about his former life. If Shujinko could immediately be tainted by stepping through the portal, then any being who has a prolonged stay would no doubt become corrupted and probably forget his former life. |
Yeah, that makes more sense now that you said that. So now, I guess it's safe to say that he has little, if any, recollection of his former life.
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