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YELLOWMAN TMK Visitor

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: sub-zero/noob saibot |
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Does any one know what the connection between classic sub-zero and noob saibot is? Because, some say that they are brothers or that classic sub-zero is in fact noob saibot. If that's true, why did both characters appear in UMK3/MKT (cd-versions), as two different characters? I also heard that there are at least five or six different sub-zeros. Can anyone confirm?
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: sub-zero/noob saibot |
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| YELLOWMAN wrote: | | Does any one know what the connection between classic sub-zero and noob saibot is? Because, some say that they are brothers or that classic sub-zero is in fact noob saibot. If that's true, why did both characters appear in UMK3/MKT (cd-versions), as two different characters? I also heard that there are at least five or six different sub-zeros. Can anyone confirm? |
A short brief In MK History.
In the original MK 1 Sub-Zero's shows that he had vanished into the unknown after winning the first tournament (his ending).
So Later in MKD it is revealed that he (noob saibot) is Sub-Zero from the original (mk1) Mortal Kombat.
They are two completly different characters , as for your Umk3. They are different characters but I cannot explain why they had differnet moves, maybe noob got tired of ice and went onto to the brother of shadows? _________________ <center>Mortal Kombat Informer
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Alow me to explain.
MK1 Scorpion kills Sub-Zero.
MK2 Sub-Zero's little bro (also named Sub-Zero) Enters and fights Scorpion and kicks his ass
MK Trilogy (the final version of 3) Noob Saibot becomes a regualar character and gets his own story
MK Gold (final version of 4) Noob helps Shinok (cuz he worships him) and gets his ass kicked
MK Tourniment Edition (final version of Deadly Allience) Nothing happens to Noob.
MKD: In Noobs ending Sub-Zero was transported to the Netherrealm where he and Sub-Zero were face to face. The two fight and Smoke (Sub-Zero's old freind) beat the hell out of Sub-Zero. It is revieled the Noob Saibot is the wriath form of the Sub-Zero from MK1/Anotholgy. Noob witht he help of SMoke kill Sub-Zero. The end. _________________
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YELLOWMAN TMK Visitor

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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It still doesn't explain why or how both sub-zeros and noob saibot, were in UMK3/MKT(cd versions), as 3 different characters. Just to go back to the beginning; in goro's lair in MK1, I read that the eyes that blink belong to 3 ninjas, Reptile, Ermac and do you guys know who the other ninja is? I think it's Noob Saibot; but i'm not sure. Maybe if someone knows, then, it can help clear things up. If Noob Saibot is a wraith of classic sub-zero, then it's not well portrayed because both characters appeared in UMK3+MKT (cd versions) as different characters.
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VainZiler True Fighting Fan


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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| YELLOWMAN wrote: | | It still doesn't explain why or how both sub-zero's and noob saibot, were in UMK3/MKT(cd versions). Just to go back to the beginning; in goro's lair in MK1, I read that the eyes that blink belong to 3 ninjas, Reptile, Ermac and do you guys know who the other ninja is? I think it's Noob Saibot; but i'm not sure. Maybe if someone knows, then, it can help clear things up. If Noob Saibot is a wraith of classic sub-zero, then it's not well portrayed because both characters appeared in UMK3+MKT (cd versions). |
Becuase, that game was ment to show off ALL their created works so far, duh! _________________
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Khaos TMK Elder God


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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| VainZiler wrote: | Alow me to explain.
MK1 Scorpion kills Sub-Zero.
MK2 Sub-Zero's little bro (also named Sub-Zero) Enters and fights Scorpion and kicks his ass
MK Trilogy (the final version of 3) Noob Saibot becomes a regualar character and gets his own story
MK Gold (final version of 4) Noob helps Shinok (cuz he worships him) and gets his ass kicked
MK Tourniment Edition (final version of Deadly Allience) Nothing happens to Noob.
MKD: In Noobs ending Sub-Zero was transported to the Netherrealm where he and Sub-Zero were face to face. The two fight and Smoke (Sub-Zero's old freind) beat the hell out of Sub-Zero. It is revieled the Noob Saibot is the wriath form of the Sub-Zero from MK1/Anotholgy. Noob witht he help of SMoke kill Sub-Zero. The end. |
That is completly incorrect. Scorpion was murdered by Sub-Zero.
YellowMan: Sub-Zero and Noob are two completly different characters, they can both appear in one game.. _________________ <center>Mortal Kombat Informer
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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yeah they both can in one game but trilogy is like a mk legend game noob saibot and sub-zero1 diffrnt characters
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Khaos wrote: | | VainZiler wrote: | Alow me to explain.
MK1 Scorpion kills Sub-Zero.
MK2 Sub-Zero's little bro (also named Sub-Zero) Enters and fights Scorpion and kicks his ass
MK Trilogy (the final version of 3) Noob Saibot becomes a regualar character and gets his own story
MK Gold (final version of 4) Noob helps Shinok (cuz he worships him) and gets his ass kicked
MK Tourniment Edition (final version of Deadly Allience) Nothing happens to Noob.
MKD: In Noobs ending Sub-Zero was transported to the Netherrealm where he and Sub-Zero were face to face. The two fight and Smoke (Sub-Zero's old freind) beat the hell out of Sub-Zero. It is revieled the Noob Saibot is the wriath form of the Sub-Zero from MK1/Anotholgy. Noob witht he help of SMoke kill Sub-Zero. The end. |
That is completly incorrect. Scorpion was murdered by Sub-Zero.
YellowMan: Sub-Zero and Noob are two completly different characters, they can both appear in one game.. |
Uhh, didn't Sub murder Scorp before MK1? Because nobody was refuting that. And how incorrect can the story of the game be? Doesn't it straight out say that Noob Saibot is the spectre-esque remains of the Sub Zero from MK1? _________________ UltimateMK.com - The ULTIMATE Source of Kompetitive Mortal Kombat Information
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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MKT wasn't a story driven game, it just had all of the characters in for the mk fan demographic.
the fact that noob and classic sub zero appear in it is just so they both make an appearance
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yellowman: this is what i think
According to MKD's ending for Noob, Classic Sub-Zero is Noob; hoever, since that fact is in an ending that can't be taken seriously until it is confirmed in a future MK game.
MKT is a game that tries to include all characters introduced in MK1, MK2, MK3, and UMK3. I don't think that the connection between classic S-Z and Noob was thought out at that time.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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well that's what you get for putting your trust in mortal men. That's the problem with this world. It never gets satisfied. Our thoughts are endless and unrealistic. No wonder people go insane. If Noob Saibot is the wraith form of Classic Sub-Zero, then it should have being portrayed in a proper manner. For example, they could have used an icon (picture) swap like they did with the 4 classic characters in MKT (cd-versions).
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well there will always be mistakes in games. No matter what, no one is perfect. I for one, have found many mistakes in MK. _________________ Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't Shinnok revive him? In UMK he was playable and had an ending stating that he was a spy for Shinnok. Classic Sub Zero also was in UMK and his ending was "He mysteriously comebacks and wins the tournament." Maybe they just put Classic Sub Zero in for the fun of it. I liked his ice pool attack. _________________ There is no knowledge that is not power...
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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What does Classic S-Z's bio say? _________________ Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Classic Sub Zero's is: Have been killed in the first tornament, Sub Zero somehow seems to have emerged and win the third tornament. However upon Outworld and the removing of his mask both the Earthrealm warriors...Are shocked to discover the true idenity of this warrior. A warrior who has long been missing from a previous mortal kombat, the one who will return in the forth Mortal Kombat. _________________ There is no knowledge that is not power...
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