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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:01 pm
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Something seems really weird about MKArmageddon. Some people seem like they're on the wrong side. In the teaser trailer, when they show Kintaro, you see all the bad guys charging towards the good guys like a big war. Yeah, and one of the people you see is Rain. Is Rain supposed to be evil? He could've been good, and I thought he would be. But I guess he's not. I also saw when everyone was running like retards ( they don't know how to run) that they had Li Mei on the good side. Now in her ending, she ended up being evil. Of course as everyone says " Not every ending is real" Even though Onaga never killed everyone and summoned the One Being, Li Mei was still being converted to being evil. And what About Smoke? Will he be good or evil? And there could be other alignment switches, between others. And even with the evil side, why is it only generally bad guys. They should be seperated. They had all kinds of different people on the bad side, like Scorpion, Shao Kahn, Shinnok, Shang Tsung, Quan Chi. I mean Scorpion was one person away from Quan Chi. Why the hell would Scorpion not kill him? And Shang Tsung was right behind them both, it's as if they had some kind of secret agreement to not kill each other. And even Hsu Hao and Mavado were both right behind Kabal, surely he would try to kill him right then and there. I don't know, maybe they'll do something to clear it up. But it's still weird...
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:51 pm
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I think that trailer just wanted to product an epic looking battle to get the fans pumped up. I'm not sure who's alligned with good or evil but I'm pretty sure we can't base it all on the trailer, simply because I doubt Scorpion would ever alliance himself with Quan Chi, etc.
As for Rain, if you play MK Deception's Konquest mode, you'll find out he's still working for Shao Kahn. You can find him in the Edenian realm trying to help Kahn's forces and destroy the Edenian resistance.
I think if we want to know everyone's status, be it good, evil or neutral, we'll just have to wait for the game to come out. While some people are obviously good and evil (Liu Kang, Shao Kahn, etc.) there are some characters we just won't know about until we play the game.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:52 pm
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That the purpose for a teaser trailer. To tease and confuse you. Also, it seems like the trailer was just a way to show a war is happening. I bet a lot will change before the game is actualy comes out.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:07 pm
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That's exactly what I was thinking, it was a teaser trailer. I guess I didn't put that in. But besides the trailer, do you guys thik Rain should be evil? And what about the other unknown alignments, like Smoke and Scorpion? In this game, people should'nt still be neutral. Everyone needs to choose a side. So who should really be good or bad? And Rain in konquest, I always forget about things that happen in konquest mode. Hmm... oh yeah, about the war. I think they should do something where there is at least a tag team or 2-on-2. You can't have something show a war and then when you play it it's just one-on-one. I hope that last hidden mode in MKA will be some kind of war situation.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:11 pm
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Rain should be alligned with Shao Kahn.
I truly believe that he never betrayed Shao Kahn, even in UMK3 when it said he joined forces with Kitana. The Konquest story in MKD basically proves this when he's still trying to get Edenia to merge with Outworld, even after Shinnok has fallen.
You can find Rain in Konquest mode twice. Once in Outworld (I believe this time period is before MK3) when he has something that belongs to Goro (I forget what). The second time is in Edenia. He asks you to find the rebel movement led by Jade so that he can crush it. However, when you find it and talk to Jade, she tells you to inform Rain where their camp is but not to warn him that they are waiting for him. You inform Rain, and he is found ambushed by Jade and unconscious.
My guess is that his supposed 'suicide mission' (from his MK3 ending) was simply an excuse to rejoin Kahn's invasion forces and inform Shao Kahn who survived the initial invasion. 
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:16 pm
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But I just don't want Rain dying, he's the shit and if he dies, i'll be morally pissed. But if he stays alive, who cares? I'd be in fact, glad if he ends up killing Liu Kang, that idiot with the incoherent screaming. Of course, Liu is actually famous in MK (who knew?) so he wouldn't die unless by someone like The One Being. Or they might have some kind of situation where it ends like the Matrix trilogy: Liu and whoever dies.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:43 pm
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With regards to the everyone dieing myth, here's what Ed Boon had to say in an interview:
| Quote: | SB - A number of fans have expressed concern that they believe - they are under the impression that everybody dies. Is there - this is not necessarily the case, though, is it?
EB - No, no, it's not necessarily the case. I mean, we're going to - we may have a bunch of characters die, we may have some characters die. We're certainly not going to kill every single character off. It's kinda speculation, I guess. |
I don't know about Rain surviving because he's a lot less popular that say Scorpion or Raiden. But at least that shows there's hope for his survival.
Link to the interview: http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/News/pulse-2006-edboon.cds
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:10 am
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I have read that before and I know that not ewveryone will die. But i'm saying, unpopular evil characters are the first to die, because 1) they're unpopular and 2) they're evil. Of course, if they actually put Rain in previous games like MKDA or MKD, he'd be more popular than his current status. I think his lowered reputation just has to do with the hiatus.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:10 am
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About that whole evil versus good thing....I love it.
I want all the characters to choose a side. I want the neutral option to be eliminated for THIS game, as the story and events for this game is very dramatic.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:19 am
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I agree with that. Scorpion has been soley after one person for far too long. Be it Sub-Zero V (who he killed), Sub-Zero VI (who he spared and forgave because he was not the one who killed him) and then Quan Chi.
I think for the final major battle, everyone will have to take a side. Perhaps Scorpion joined the forces of evil because the it includes the Neatherrealm, Outworld and Chaos realms versus Earthrealm, Order and Edenia or something. In any case, for a battle this massive, neutrals would almost have to side with someone if they want to survive.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:26 am
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That's so true. No more neutral people allowed!  And bout the good versus bad, the good people would ultimately serve Raiden, but the bad guys would be more complex. The evil rulers would be Shao Kahn, Quan Chi, Shinnok, and Onaga. I would say Shang but he has no allies anyway once you think about it. They all served Kahn or now serve someone else. Baraka, Mileena, and the tarkatan serving Onaga, Goro and the Shokan serving Kahn, the red dragon with Quan Chi, and I forgot about the Oni. Maybe they'll make a pact with Shang(he'll need it.) And why does Midway or ultimately Boon care who's side Scorpion goes on? He ain't gon die anyway, why bother? They should just flip a coin, and that'll depend on if he's bad or good. And in reality, it's better than nothing.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:29 am
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And, like I said, they can always allow neutrals back in later MK games, just not for this one.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:42 am
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Point proven. And I wonder why they don't even have Scorpion evil. He is a hellborne spectre seeking revenge, after all. I don't even think there are that many neutral or unknown alignments anyway, just people like Smoke, Sareena (she does have the hots for Sub-Zero, after all), Nitara, Blaze, and of course, Scorpion. Nitara could be good or evil, it's a 50/50 chance. I guess she would be good because in MKDA she sent Cyrax off in his or her ending(can't remember which)somewhere and it obviously wasn't hell. Well, she did ultimately cause the ressurection of Onaga, because she's the one who led Reptile to the lava shrine in the first place. And Blaze, oh goodness. I hope he is good just to prove those people that just because he's above the others doesn't mean he's the boss. I mean, would placement in a pic really count? I mean, Sheeva is on the second to top row and she sucks! She don't even look like a girl, what would make her important? She's just big like those other people, so she has to go there.We do know know that Motaro is in the game, but if they knew sooner, they would've just put him on top. But they also could have very well had Raiden there, or they could have had something like Shinnok and Raiden on the top but on opposing sides and eyeing it out.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:56 am
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| Razz2D2 wrote: | | Point proven. And I wonder why they don't even have Scorpion evil. He is a hellborne spectre seeking revenge, after all. |
Scorpion isn't a bad guy, he's actually somewhat of an honorable man. The only reason he came back was to avenge his family and clan, and otherwise has no reason to deal with evil. The only reason he aligned himself with evil was so that he could get out of the Netherrealm. Then, he only sided with Shang Tsung in order to get to Sub-Zero V.
| Razz2D2 wrote: | | And Blaze, oh goodness. I hope he is good just to prove those people that just because he's above the others doesn't mean he's the boss. I mean, would placement in a pic really count? |
Pictures are symbolic, so you tell me.
| Razz2D2 wrote: | | I mean, Sheeva is on the second to top row and she sucks! She don't even look like a girl, what would make her important? |
I don't see how her looks are relavent.
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:15 am
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| -SubZero- wrote: | | Razz2D2 wrote: | | Point proven. And I wonder why they don't even have Scorpion evil. He is a hellborne spectre seeking revenge, after all. |
Scorpion isn't a bad guy, he's actually somewhat of an honorable man. The only reason he came back was to avenge his family and clan, and otherwise has no reason to deal with evil. The only reason he aligned himself with evil was so that he could get out of the Netherrealm. Then, he only sided with Shang Tsung in order to get to Sub-Zero V.
| Razz2D2 wrote: | | And Blaze, oh goodness. I hope he is good just to prove those people that just because he's above the others doesn't mean he's the boss. I mean, would placement in a pic really count? |
Pictures are symbolic, so you tell me.
| Razz2D2 wrote: | | I mean, Sheeva is on the second to top row and she sucks! She don't even look like a girl, what would make her important? |
I don't see how her looks are relavent. |
Believe me, i'm not ignorant. I know all about Scorpion and he did it all for revenge, but he should just be evil for the sake of the never ending Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion feud to finally end. Because if he becomes good in MKA, people will still keep wondering who's stronger and that never ending question will appear for a long time: Scorpion or Sub-Zero? And about Sheeva, i'm not saying just because she looks like a guy that she shouldn't be important. I was just insulting her. But I really didn't need to insult her because she shows it herself.
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