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We all know by this point that a large portion of the characters from MK1 to MK7 will be killed off and never coming back. So I thought, why not make a topic about who YOU want/expect to be killed off and why? It’s difficult to kill off many of these characters, but considering the MKTeam will be doing this anyways, might as well try to pick off the ones we’re willing to see gone the most. I'll begin:
Characters that I think should die off and why:
Liu Kang: He's been present in all but one MK game (Deadly Alliance) and it's his time to vanish from the roster of characters. Although he's got a solid story and good moves, it's time for him to vanish from MK games.
Johney Cage: He's been in most games, he's a pretty cool character, but all things considered, he's easily removable from MK. He was not present in MK3, MK4 or MKD, and has been killed before. Sorry Cage, not even stardom will save you.
Kano: Nothing new, Kano hasn't been playable in MK2, MK4, MK6, and although he's been a fan favourite, he's never done anything for me as a character. His clan could live on, but I think Kano needs to go.
Shang Tsung: The evil sorcerer who's been around far too long. He's escaped death so many times that this should be it. The souls he's enslaved should be free forever from him and he should become a character of the past, nothing more.
Goro: He’s been there from day 1 and re-appreared many times. There will always be more Shokan to replace him, and Goro’s time to go for good if any is MK –AR.
Jax: Originally put in the game because MK was lacking an 'ethnic' person, Jax is simply a human being with strength and a gun. It's time to remove him from future games. There will always be more 'ethnic' characters (i.e. Darrius).
Baraka: A badass Tarkatan and a powerhungry beast, Baraka has had his fair share of games and has done very well in the MK universe, but the time of the Tarkatans and Baraka is over. I forsee Shao Kahn killing off his entire species.
Kintaro: It’s nice to see him back for MK –AR, but with a fresh start needed, Kintaro hardly has enough to keep him around for future games. He’s just another Shokan that can be replaced.
Mileena: One of the twin sisters has to go. Kitana and Mileena have been at each others' throats forever and I think one has to die off. Mileena is very hot, but it's not hard to replace good looks in MK (i.e. Frost). However, the reason I chose Mileena instead of Kitana is that Mileena
Nightwolf: I've never been a big fan of Nightwolf, but I think he's a decent character. However, if MK is to start out fresh, most of the old roster needs to go, and if I'm willing to ice Kitana/Mileena, nothing's stopping me from putting Nightwolf on the death list.
Jade: While she’s had a good story and cool moves, I think one of the surviving Edenian ninjas can survive only, and that one is Kitana. In terms of popularity, I think Kitana is leagues ahead of Jade, as well as having more importance in role, she should survive instead of Jade.
Sektor: While I really want to see Sektor live on and create a clan of cyborg ninjas to challenge the Lin Kuei, I doubt Sektor will live on to see another MK game. He’s had a great story and is one of my favourites, but considering I’m trying to limit the survivors to a handfull, I think he’s got to go.
Cyrax: Yes, Ketchup and Mustard both go well on hotdogs, and both go well on the death list. Cyrax, like his counterpart, has had a great run and an amazing story, but I think that he just doesn’t have enough to continue on in MK.
Sindel: Her daughter survives, but she should not. I think it’s time to see Kitana take her rightful place on the throne of Edenia after Sindel dies in the flames of Armageddon. It was nice to see her return in MKD, but I won’t shed any tears if she does not return.
Stryker: It’s great to see him back in MK –AR, but that’s about it. His story was good for MK3, but I don’t think he should survive Armageddon. Considering I’m willing to kill off Mileena, Stryker hasn’t a chance in hell.
Kabal: It’s very hard to kill off so many favourites, but for MK to have a new start, most of them have got to go. Kabal barely survived Kahn’s extermination squads, I don’t think he will survive the coming war. He’s had a great run, but I think the Black Dragon will live on even without him or Kano. (Note, if I had to choose between Kabal and Kano surviving, Kabal has it down pat).
Sheeva: Not the most interesting character. She’s been in MK3/UMK3/MKT but that’s it, and I didn’t really miss her while she was gone, and I won’t miss her if she’s not present in the future of MK.
Motaro: It’s kind of obvious most of the sub-bosses will die off, and Motaro is no exception. He was in the MK3 trio (MK3/UMK3/MKT) but I didn’t miss him when he wasn’t shown after that. He was good for a sub-boss but only once. It’s time to put this horsey down.
Shao Kahn: Don’t uppercut me into the pit spikes yet. Shao Kahn has been, in my opinion, the greatest boss of all MK games. I’ll be very upset to see him die off, but simply because the MK universe needs a new beginning, I think I’m willing to live with Kahn’s final death.
Reiko: Okay, so he’s a general in Kahn’s armies, woopdie-friggin-doo. I won’t miss him, and most people won’t as far as I can tell.
Jarek: Hmm, another member of the Black Dragon. DIE! End of story.
Tanya: If I’m willing to let Mileena die, Tanya should too. She’s a traitor, an egotist, and has made too many enemies. She can be killed off in Armageddon and I won’t miss her. Besides, if Kitana lives, I’m certain Tanya won’t have a chance for survival.
Kai: He had a sub-decent story, but nothing spectacular. Besides, I’d prefer Kung Lao to run the new White Lotus society, not Kai. So if he dies off (which he should because he was only present in MK4/MKG) I won’t be upset in the slightest.
Shinnok: A beaten and pathetic god who fell to the Neatherrealm, Shinnok will die in Armageddon. In fact, him and all the other bosses will go, simply because of the need for new evils. Sorry Mr. Mime Jester person.
Fujin: Hmm, Raiden, or Fujin…RAIDEN! Let’s face it, Fujin cannot compare to Raiden, and if he dies off then it’s not a big deal. It’s not like gods haven’t died in the MK universe before, and Fujin is no exception.
Quan Chi: It’s time for Scorpion to exact his revenge on this scumbag. He’s got an amazing story and incredible powers, but I forsee Mr. Mime vanishing into the history books of MK. It’s just his time to die.
Bo Rai Cho: Look, he was a new character for Deadly Alliance and Deception, but he’s not that great people. He’s a fat drunk and if he survives, I’ll be disappointed. I never liked his character, and if I can kill off some of my all-time favourites, I have NO problem killing off him.
Li Mei: She’s a damn attractive character, but like Tanya, a power-hungry bitch who can die off without consequence. Her role was basically to compete with DoA’s sex appeal, and she can be easily replaced.
Kenshi: Just kill him off. He was interesting for a new character but his telekenetic moves were a ripoff of Ermac’s and I think for MK to have new characters, he needs to go. Let’s face it, if I say Sub-Zero 6 should go, he should too.
Movado: Oooo, Aaaaa, a Red Dragon member! DIE! He was a pathetic attempt at a new character with Kabal’s weapons and did nothing for me except make me wonder what happened to Kabal. Remove him forever!
Nitara: While she brought to MK a new race that posed a threat to the realms, the Vampires, I think that she will die off in MK –AR. If she survives it will basically allow MK to have another ‘stop the evil Vampires!’ game, and we don’t need that.
Drahmin: While this character offers something interesting, especially after his MKDA ending, I won’t be surprised if he is not present in future MK games. There’s a whole realm of Oni just like him, and he’s not hard to replace.
Hsu Hao: A waste of a character slot in MKDA. What else can I say? He’s some Korean guy with a fake heart. He offers nothing cool to the MK storyline and if he dies off I won’t give it a second thought, because he was a failed attempt at a cool new character.
Mokap: …Die.
Moloch: An okay sub-boss, nothing more. I don’t know how he’d survive for future MK games.
Torch: If he IS the final boss of Armageddon, he will die off. If he’s not the final boss of Armageddon, he’ll probably die off. Since I don’t know what it was that his supposed task was (which he didn’t complete because he was enslaved in MK2) he could come back in a future game, but I don’t think that will happen.
Havik: An…Interesting character to say the least, but not enough to keep him around for future MK games…No, Havik can go with the rest of them. Though, there is a lot that can be done with the realm of Chaos, and Havik is a decent character from that realm.
Shujinko: I loved Raiden’s MKD ending because it was not only hilarious, but it showed us how Raiden has changed and been tainted by evil. But because all MK characters will return in MK – AR, I’m sure Shukinko will too. Just another game for him to be killed off in though.
Hotaru: Realm of Order’s storyline was cool, but Hotaru was just a retard. I won’t mind if he’s killed off, and I certainly hope that he is. If MK wants a new start and is willing to remove classic favourites, he cannot be there. It would be an insult.
Ashrah: Not a classic character, so she can go. However, if she does return I won’t be upset, her story was decent and there’s room for her to return.
Dairou: No, no, no! Bad MKTeam! Very bad! What a horrible new character, let’s hope he remains dead. Forever!
Kira: While I’d like her to survive if they need someone to continue on the Black Dragon clan, I won’t be surprised if she never comes back. As I’ve said, sex appeal in MK is easy to replace, as well as newer characters like her.
Kobra: Bad MKTeam! Very, very bad! Kill him off before I stop playing your games, because if you keep making characters like Kobra, I’ll have every reason to stop playing them. (Same goes for Dairou and Mokap!!)
Darrius: Jax wasn’t there, so MK needed a new black guy. Kill him off and make a new one, and hopefully give him a decent story. Darrius was a sad excuse of a character in MK. I hope to never see him again.
Onaga: He was a cool final boss for MKD and it’ll be interesting to see what happens to him in MK –AR, but I don’t think he should survive, especially if MK wants new bosses and new characters.
Chamelion: I think he doesn’t have nearly enough to support him as a character to return in future games unless it’s for a joke. Although I want to see him in MK –AR, I don’t think he should come back in future MK games.
Khamelion: The Raptors should return, and it should be done through Reptile and Khamelion ‘getting it on’ if you catch my drift. However, I won’t be surprised if she’s killed off, let alone reappear in MK –AR.
Characters who I think MUST LIVE and why:
Scorpion: Let’s face it, he’s not going to die in MK –AR, and he probably will never die off. He’s one of my all-time favourites and Ed Boon’s personal favourite. He’s the badass spectre who everyone expects to see in MK, and he will be there. If he’s not, MK will loose out on big bucks, like they did with MK3 (the ONLY game where Scorpion was not playable).
Kung Lao: Someone has to survive to rebuild the White Lotus society, or to develop a new Earthrealm force to protect the realm of Earth. I chose Lao over Kang because he’s still classic, but newer than Kang. He’d be worthy of surviving in future MK games. Or perhaps it could be the original Lao, or a newer descendant.
Raiden: There’s too much to do with Raiden, especially with his more evil look to him. I think Raiden needs to be kept alive because of the flexibility of his character. Even though he can die off for good later, I don’t think his end should come in MK –AR.
Sonya: She’s got a good storyline and if any of the people from the Outworld Investigation Agency, it should be her. A solid storyline and fan base, as well as good moves, Sonya can survive.
Finally, characters that SHOULD live but will probably die off or can die off and why:
Sub-Zero: Hear me out people, before you all hang me on the pit spikes. While Sub-Zero is without a doubt one of the original characters, he’s been in every single MK game (be it the older brother or the younger) and has a massive fan base behind him, I think he has a much higher chance of being killed off over Scorpion, simply because Scorpion is Boon’s personal favourite, and Sub-Zero is a mortal, not a spectre. Also, he’s been around for too long, and a new Lin Kuei warrior can replace him. Perhaps a son.
Ermac: Not just because he’s a badass ninja with cool moves and a fan base to back him up, but because there’s so much the MKTeam can do with his character. He’s made up of millions of warrior souls and is a worthy opponent. If he dies I will be greatly disappointed, but not surprised.
Smoke: The Lin Kuei needs a new leader, and if Sub-Zero 6 dies, Smoke is there to take his place. I won’t be surprised if he’s killed off, but I think he’s one of MK’s greatest characters and it would be a mistake to kill him off without giving him more games to build on.
Noob Saibot: I never thought I’d say he should live, but I have reasons for this. Sub-Zero 6 dies on my list, and Noob is the only other Sub-Zero we know of. Granted they could make a Sub-Zero 7, but I think Noob should survive because he’s not only in charge of the Neatherrealm now, but he could perhaps be revived as the original Sub-Zero from MK1 and lead the Liu Kuei, or something else. His character is flexible and thus is worth keeping around. However, if he dies off, I won’t be surprised. It would truly mark the end of Ed Boon and John Tobias’ partnership (look at Noob Saibot backwards, you’ll understand why I said that).
Rain: I think he will die off because the MKTeam wants a new start, and he’s exposable. However, I think this would be a mistake. If Shao Kahn dies off for good (which will most likely be the case) then Outworld will need a leader. And who better to lead than the man who’s become a loyal subject to Kahn, and his father was killed by Kahn’s executions squads? Rain’s perfect for the job in my mind and I think if the MKTeam kept him around, it’d be worth it.
Reptile: He’s been there since MK1, he’s been forced to serve someone constantly and has always been let down. Now that MK’s getting a new start, Reptile should be allowed one too. Not only should his people, the Raptors, be restored, but they should be reborn through repopulation by Reptile and Khameleon. Also, Reptile should be leading his new race, and for once be in charge of his own destiny. However, as much as it will suck, he has the chance of being killed off.
Frost: While I think she’ll die off, I honestly believe that there’s a lot that can be done with Frost’s character to make her worth keeping around. (And no guys, I’m not talking about her sex appeal, lol). She’s got Sub-Zero’s powers, she could rule the new Lin Kuei at Sub-Zero’s side or by herself, or could go off on her own. Whatever the case, I think she’s worthy of keeping around.
Sareena: Many don’t even know who she is. Sareena is a character from Sub-Zero Mythologies and MK Tournament edition (and apparently, accroding to wikipedia, she was in MKD). Her MK-TE ending reveals she’s a demon with incredible powers and she has something planned. There’s a lot of room for her character in future MK games, but I won’t be surprised if she is kicked off for good. Although, a love story with her and Sub-Zero 5 should occur, since they both have 'a thing' for one another. Perhaps she could rule the Neatherrealm at Noob Saibot's side.
*Takes deep breathes* wow, that took an hour or so to type out. And that’s my two cents. What do you think? Who do you think should survive or die off. I'm sorry for having such a massive post, but I wanted to explain why everyone should live or die in my opinion. Let me know if I missed anyone. 
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:34 am
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Wow...that IS a massive post!!!!
But the one death that comes to mind is Kitana. It time for Mileena to stop with the rivalry and kill the bitch. That way, Mileena can fullfill her purpose and we can see what else Mileena can do.
I also think of Li Mei. I want her to die as a hero. Her struggling with evil inside her. I think, just before being consumed by all the evil, she takes one for the team and sacrifices herself to have BIG impact on the good side.
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wow......... that is a huge post. Well, I agree with you on most of those and you have good reasons to back them up so congrats to you cause ive typed posts like that on other boards b4 and it takes 4ever so good job!
BTW, my first post here 
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:07 am
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| djonesvablast wrote: | wow......... that is a huge post. Well, I agree with you on most of those and you have good reasons to back them up so congrats to you cause ive typed posts like that on other boards b4 and it takes 4ever so good job!
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Welcome to Mortal Kombat Alliance (aka Total Mortal Kombat now, I prefered the old name personally) forums and website. And yes, it is a very long post and took over an hour to type it all up and go over everything.
| Jay wrote: | | But the one death that comes to mind is Kitana. It time for Mileena to stop with the rivalry and kill the bitch. That way, Mileena can fullfill her purpose and we can see what else Mileena can do. |
The reason I chose Kitana over Mileena was the whole 'good vs. evil, good always wins' and plus Edenia would fall under Outworld hands again if Mileena ruled most likely, and it would be better for the story if it was an ongoing struggle. If Kitana was in charge, she'd never give up fighting off Outworld invasions, Mileena would probably welcome it.
Then again, the realms may not exist after MK -AR so who knows...One of them has to survive though, either one is good with me. Mileena deserves to lead too, but I don't know...Only time will tell.
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I don't want Jade to die, coz' I think she would be of great help for the Edenian Kingdom and to Sindel as well. If anyone should die it is Kobra because he is one annoying prick, Dairou, heck what does his story have to do with any of the Mortal Kombat stories if his story is about wanting to get even with Hotaru. Jonny Cage, I don't know why but somehow I see him as no importance. Liu Kang, well he has been in all of the games except SF and DA. And besides its time for a new champion for Earthrealm. That's all. 
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For me :
Characters who must die : Kano, Nightwolf, Stryker, Sheeva, Reiko, Jarek, Kai, Shinnok, Li Mei, Drahmin, Hsu Hao, Mokap, Sindel, Torch, Hotaru, Ashrah, Dairou, Kira, Kobra, Darrius, Frost, Sareena and Shang Tsung.
Characters who must live : Baraka, Mileena, Jade, Sektor, Cyrax, Kabal, Tanya, Fujin, Quan Chi, Movado, Nitara, Moloch, Havik, Kung Lao, Kitana, Raiden, Sonya, Chameleon, Khameleon, Smoke, Ermac, Noob Saibot, Reptile, Rain, Sub-Zero and Scorpion.
Characters who may live, but can die also : Liu Kang, Jax, Bo Rai Cho, Johnny Cage, Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, Kenshi, Shujinko, Onaga and Shao Kahn.
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Heres my list:
To Die: Stryker, Sheeva, Jarek, Li Mei, Shinnok, Hsu Hao, Mokap, Blaze, Dairou, Hotaru, Kobra, Darrius, Sareena, Tanya, Shang Tsung, Fujin, Johnny Cage, Goro, Nightwolf, Liu Kang, Motaro and Havik
To Live: Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Sonya, Kano, Raiden, Kung Lao, Mileena, Kitana, Smoke, Jade, Noob Saibot, Baraka, Kintaro, Sektor, Cyrax, Sindel, Kabal, Ermac, Rain, Ashrah, Frost and Kenshi
May Live but can also die: Nitara, Moloch, Jax, Bo Rai Cho, Shujinko, Shao Kahn, Onaga, Quan Chi and Khameleon
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Wanna know the truth?
The REAL truth?
Ed Boon said this himself in one of the dozen interviews he had participated in.
EVERYONE WILL DIE!
However, he also said; "I would be hard to think of a Mortal Kombat game without Scorpion or a decendent of Sub Zero in it."
See what I mean?
Everyone dies, but somewhere Ed says that a decendent of Sub Zero and Scorpion the spector will probably make a continuation.
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:06 am
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Ed Boon also said in one of the interviews:
| Quote: | EB - The next game is actually going to be called Shaolin Monkeys, and it's kind of like ...
JP - *monkey screech*
EB - ... exactly. It's going to be like, it's Mortal Kombat in a zoo. Two monkeys escape, and they have to have a... they have the same powers as Liu Kang and Kung Lao. We're just going to basically expand on that whole story. |
So as you can see, you can't necessarily believe everything you hear.
Also, characters in MK die and come back all the time. They may all 'die' in MK -AR, but some may return in future games. I'm simply asking who you think may show up in future games and 'survive'. Most of them will stay dead, that is a given. But I suspect the MKTeam wouldn't dare kill every one of them off for good.
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Well, I assume that EVERYONE will die.
Scorpion is already dead, so he's a given . But also, since he's dead, he can also come back pretty much whenever he wants.
The only other character that I say would come back would be a decendent of Sub-Zero or Frost. Frost would be the only likely canidate as we have no in depth backstory on her.
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Johnny Cage..he doesnt make mk all that serious..dont like him that much.I also think Scorpion..hes been around for a while and i think hes going to wined up being the one who kills onaga but gets killed in mka.I know kano's going to cuz he dies too much.Cant say anything about subzero other than hes to awesome to die..hes good and he hasnt done anything that will make him die off.im also thinking nitara will die..hasnt been in alot of mks and she will make an interesting death after the endings shes involved with in mkda
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As long as Reptile,scorpion,sub-zero survive im happy 1 character i neaver hope to see after this game is Shinnok i freaking hate him 
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Making a list like this ones is difficult to me 'cause I don't hate any character(except Jarek):
Characters who must die: Mokap, Jarek, Blaze, Shao Kahn, Liu Kang, Kira, Kano, Cage, Shinnok, Kung Lao, Shang Tsung, Stryker(only 'cause Boon said it), Nightwolf, Kai, Reiko, Motaro, Chamaleon, meat, Hsu Hao, Nitara, Drahmin, Havik., Sareena, Moloch.
Characters who must live: Scorpion, Raiden, Fujin, Quan Chi, Kitana, Mileena, Kabal, Jax, Sonya, Cyrax, Kintaro, Ermac.
Characters who'll probably live but maybe will die: Khamaleon, Rain, Goro, Jade, Ashrah, Noob Saibot, Smoke, Sektor, Baraka, Dairou, Darrius, Hotaru, Onaga, Frost, Bo' Rai Cho, Li Mei, Kobra, Shujinko, Sheeva, Kenshi, Tanya, Mavado.
Characters who mustn't die but won't participate in any other MK: Reptile, Sub-Zero 'cause Reptile would find his world Zaterra and maybe Khamaleon so he won't have any reasons to enter a MK and Sub-Zero 'cause he's getting old, really old, he must pass his knowledge to Frost 'cause it looks than Subbie will die but in the natural way, not killed.
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