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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:50 pm
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 i didnt know the Revolution had gamecube slots and a controller shell what will nintendo do next.  its going to be cool though.
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In one of the interviews ed boon said:
[quote=Ed Boon]You know, I don’t know how you could. One of the things about the Revolution controller is that you don’t have immediate access to a whole bunch of buttons. It’s like your holding a television remote and you have that directional pad and you have a big A button next to it. But there’s not five or six buttons to give you all of these functions, so maybe they will compensate but tilting one way for blocking or another way for attack. But that is so dramatically different. So it will either be one of the biggest hits in the world or a big failure. I certainly hope it does well.
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After reading this I dont think there will be any mortal kombat games for revolution at all.
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| ChibiHana wrote: | now now, children... settle down. =x
as for the controller, I didn't think Nintendo would be so stupid as to not make another type controller for the Revolution. using just the remote style would really limit things for game possibilities...
but I really would like to see them just put the four buttons on the right side in a diamond shape and make the buttons all the same shape and size and texture. that's all I would need to feel so much more comfortable with the Cube controller. come on, Nintendo... heed my call... make a good controller that doesn't make me wanna bash my head in. >_< |
I would hardly call Nintendo stupid, after all they invented the 4 button layout, but Nintendo like to go with new ideas and not just make more of the same... the Rev controller, looks limited, but is the most advanced controller to date. It has motion censors inside it for movement, it has 6 buttons available, not 4....6 A,B,X,Y,L1 and L2. Ganecube had the 4 buttons on the side, I was fine with it...I just didn't like the d-pad, it was to small. When I see a Sony controller, that makes me what to bash my head it more...as they stole the whole idea from Super Nintendo, and analouge was stolen from Nintendo 64. Sony even stole the duel shock!
I'm not trying to turn this into a Sony vs Nintendo war, but I think Nintendo are the leaders in the gaming industry because they always set the foundations for other comapnies to use.
I really think Ed needs to give Rev another chance, I think I will ask him in person at E3 about it, see what he says
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the first anolg stick was on the Knights pad for the saturn was it not befor even the 64. 
i have always worred about the new nintendo pads when i fist saw the 64 pad i was thinkin WTF and then i play with them and they are always so comfy man i like the cube pad but the 64 is still my fave. and i think sony should make a system with 4 ports on the dam thing or leve the gaming world.  the tight F@#?ers all ways want you to BUY a multitap and i know on line gaming is here and all that [again some thing that sega started] maybe i'm just old now or somethimg but to me there is noting better than the look on your mates faces after making them look stupid a good example is 4 player or 8 player pad shier on mario kart 
one of the consept things in 1 of the last 2 mk tornement games MK-DA & MK-D [not SM] had a 4 player MK sketch I want to see that develop more that would be so Krazzy Blood & Death every were 
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Pfft, like Sony will put an extra 2 ports in there. They are the games maunufacturers for people with no friends to just sit in their room laughin to themselves because they just 'pwnd a noob' that they will never see.
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Let's face it, Nintendo will have it's hand-held systems, but with regards to the console wars, it's fallen behind, big time. I forsee them falling into the same abyss as Sega, although they might still have their hand-held systems out. I really miss Sega....
Also, even Sony's PS3 will be costing almost $500 or $600 because it uses blue-ray discs which are expensive and the drives for them are costly too. The 360 right now has got it made. The controllers are fantastic, graphics are great, and all the other features simply add to what standard X-Box lacked. Also, the Dead or Alive games, Halo games, etc. are strictly X-Box, so ha ha ha ha. 
| Quote: | The thing that kinda annoys me about people commenting on the controller is the fact that they think the Rev is just limited to the remote style controller. It has 4 Gamecube controller ports on the back of it, and they have said that there is some sort of shell being made for the remote part, which you insert into for games like MK. I was a bit surprised even Boon seemed to think the Rev was limited to the new style controller, when it has the option to do so much more.
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The controller for the Revolution is crap. The add-on is still crap. And Nintendo is crap. They've failed to realize that competing with major companies like Microsoft and Sony is a lost cause, and really are a distant 3rd place in the console wars. Also, scorpion_master's post containing Ed Boon's statement is perfect. I didn't bother to quote it earlier but I'd read that prior to my initial post.
MK - Armageddon will not be sold on the Revolution.
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You don't wanna play Nintendo? That's your lost, you stick to your one player no depth pathetic games. I suppose Sony will win out, just down to the fact that if you release about 30 games a day that at least one of them may be good. Don't worry about the rest though because they can always go in the bargin bin and some chav can afford to buy them then. The game buying market is nintendo's biggest downfall because they don't want to see inovative games, they are mindless idiots that want to see the same game over and over again because they are afraid to go out and try something new. As long as it has got a familiar name on it, they will buy in their brainless masses.And don't even get me started oin that pile of steaming crap called the X-Box and its even worse sequal the 360, perhaps THE worst console in the history of consoles. God damn those pissy games manufacturers only releasing their games on certain consoles, then I wouldn't need that canyon filling crap X-Box.
sorry for the Nintendo fanboy rant, but look at the well marketed crap it's uo against.
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| Tongan Ninja wrote: | | You don't wanna play Nintendo? That's your lost, you stick to your one player no depth pathetic games. I suppose Sony will win out, just down to the fact that if you release about 30 games a day that at least one of them may be good. |
One player, no depth pathetic games like...Halo 1/2, Dead or Alive Ultimate/3/4, Mortal Kombat DA/D/AR, Burnout 3 Revenge, the list goes on.
But I suppose you could consider those "one player, no depth, pathetic games" if you want to... 
Also, what good is 30 games a day if most are crap or on the other consoles anyways? And even the ones that aren't on the other consoles aren't that great, because you'll be paying more money for PS3 games (since they're on blue ray discs which are expensive and new) and almost $600.00 for the system. On top of that, the graphic capabilities of the PS3 aren't all that much better than the 360, which will have a whole wack load of games before the PS3 even is released.
As for Nintendo, most of the games are released on the other 2, superior consoles (that don't have remote controls for game controllers), they other games limited to their consoles are mostly kiddy games, and the graphic capabilities and other features don't even match the other systems. The ONLY thing Nintendo offered that the other 2 didn't that I'm pissed about is Shao Kahn and Goro in MK Deception.
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As for Nintendo, most of the games are released on the other 2, superior consoles (that don't have remote controls for game controllers), they other games limited to their consoles are mostly kiddy games, and the graphic capabilities and other features don't even match the other systems. The ONLY thing Nintendo offered that the other 2 didn't that I'm pissed about is Shao Kahn and Goro in MK Deception. |
I didn't know the Gamcecube did either? Unless you're talking about the wireless controllers, then the others have it too. Dead or Alive Ultimate/3/4 and Burnout? These are what pass for good games nowadays? I also wondered how long it would talk for someone to call the GCN a 'kiddy' console as a negative. Yes, the graphics could be considered childish but the gameplay isn't. Oh and about the graphics, the X-Box may be consitently better, but Resident Evil 4 had the best graphics of any console game. Ever. Plus that is a true mark of a Sony/Microsoft fan, style over substance. Sure you get a slightly better looking game, but it's still dull as hell to play.
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hehe, I have posted this before...but I will post it agian.
People say Nintendo are "falling behind" ect...
but what people don't know, is Nintendo are actualy #1 and are ahead of Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo, being as smart as they are make there systems and games to produce and great experiance but also generate helthy profits. Sony and Microsoft, do the exact opposite, they build a machine that is overly expensive and has a very repetative range of games, eg racing / shooting. lets put aside handhelds for a moment, and let me tell you guys something... PS3 is estimated to COST $900usd to get out on shelfs, that would mean the console could cost $1000 or more.
Sony's current debt in there "Playstation" devision is as follows: $61 billion in DEBT! Microsoft, Isn't as bad as Sony, but is also failing to generate profits, they are $5 billion in DEBT! Now, I guess you are wondering "If thats true why are they still around?" Well, the fact is that Microsoft, no matter how much there X-Box division losses can be around forever, there company is big enough to do that, as the same goes for Sony...why do they do it? They want evetual controll, The way they see it, is if they can be the only company running a games system, they can make huge profits, but at the moment It's a battle. Nintendo, tho lost lots of popularity this round, still made huge profits with a quality system that wasn't expensive to produce...and they are doing it agian with Revolution. Nintendo is the roots of gaming, all the current controller layouts originated from Nintendo (Atari was around first, but Nintendo set the bar for what is still used today)
The "Nintendo is a Kiddy console" is complete crap, Because people just say that without even glancing at Gamecube, if that was the case would Resident Evil 0,1,2,3,4 and X (All MA15+) be available on it? Or what about Geist (MA15+), True Crime: Streets Of LA (MA15+), True Crime: Street Of New York (MA15+), people just go around saying "Mario is so Kiddy" blah blah blah, have these people even played a Mario game? They apeal to kids, but man...they are fucking hard games! They are not easy, I say to myself alot of the time "how the fuck is a kid supposed to figure that out" Example: Paper Mario, my #2 Gamecube game is totaly awesome, but It's not an easy game...the final boss is a bitch to beat!
Another example of stupid Marketing is Microsoft with there 360 and the fact that "omg...It's wireless" Gamecube has been wireless since lauch, all you do is buy a wavebird controller. Another thing is, Nintendo had the wireless technology back in 1985. If you do a google search, you will find pics of wireless controllers they made that were never produced they are on display at Nintendo World in New York City. (Pic available HERE quote from related pic: "They also had a Nintendo Advanced Video System (AVS) prototype, which blew my mind. This was their vision for an Americanized version of the Famicom, but someone apparently realized that 20 years would have to pass before the world was ready for a home console with wireless controllers." source: http://www.nintendorks.com/johnny/archives/001317.php)
The thing that ticks me off is the PS2 system is crap, it breaks usally after having it for 2 years, it can scratch discs and totaly ruin them because of porr design, and the laser gets miss-aligned so easily. When you look at a Nintendo system I never hear of these stories, in fact they have insane "test" videos on You Tube of people smashing there consoles to peices, and Gamecube is the one that always survives.
Now, onto the hand-helds. After Nintendo lauched there wi-fi service, it took about 1 month to get 1 million users online, thats the record! Even Microsoft took something like, 4 months to get 1 million users on X-Box live. The DS is a powerhouse of gaming, I really don't understand why people buy a PSP, sure the screen is 2cm bigger, but...the games...where are they? The games on PSP are all ports of PS2 games and there is nothing that makes the system worth buying, so what do Sony do on lauch, they push everything else the system can do as a selling point "omg...it plays MP3's" "OMG, you can look at photos on it" "omg...it can play UMD movies" I think, tho it was smart marketing was insane....if I buy a games system I want it to play, um....games! Not MP3's not view photos and not watch movies on a 3 inch screen, that is just retarded. This is also what killed sega, the PS2's DVD player came at a time, when people were still getting them, and the fact that it was a DVD player and a game system sold it. People bought it for the DVD player more than the game system, I remember having to sell PS2s at lauch and the first question was always "It plays DVD's yeah?" Thats what killed Sega, they had what I think is still the best current gen system to date, but they got killed by Sony because Sony could play DVD's...pathetic. Now Sony had to give the UMD movies the ass, because people finaly woke up and saw how retarded the idea of watching a movie on your PSP is...I mean, who is going to sit on a bus or train whip out there PSP and fire up Kill Bill and watch the mad battle sequences on that tiny screen....I mean...comon!
Now the DS, is doing the opposite, they released a game system, with...games! It took a while to get off the ground, but now the system can't be stopped...the DS Lite looks great, everyone wants one... the new games on DS looks like an inase amount of fun, I am playing Super Princess Peach at the moment on my DS...and It's just like playing a new Mario World game on SNES. And that is what the gamer wants.
The Revolution will be cabable of playing all Nintendo's games, they have an itunes, style online service, where they can access NES,SNES,N64,Sega Genesis and Turbo Graphics 16 games. It can play Gamecube, rev games and DVD's out of the box...It's an all in 1 system...you would be crazy not to get one, and watch the release price, I see it coming out at about $250us. Nintendo has always made the cheapest yet best quality systems on the market, Nintendo And Sega have always excelled at that. People see the controller and get scared, but you really need to wait and see because the Rev has so many differant controller options, that shunning the console now, is just idiotic.
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Seems how it turned into a consel war (like a lot of other topics, I will say these things:
Playstation has MORE to off to ME. I love the Final Fantasy series (Most of which is PS/PS2 only), the Devil May Cry series is amazing (PS2 adn soon to be PSP ONLY), Soul Calibur 3 is just plain fantasic (PS2 only), Killzone is one of the best shooters alive, and Cold Winter IS the best, just to name a few games. Also, I love the controler. It fits wonderfully in my hands, its comfertable, and can handle a good tossing (And trust me, I have a tendancey to throw my game and shit when I get pissed). The consel itself isnt that big, and fits well in most VCR/DVD player storage places. Really, the only problem I have at all with the PS/PS2 is that there is only 2 controler ports, but even then, I am the kind of person who hates playing with people, unless I am fighting them, so it dont bother me.
X-box is.... utter crap. The game selection consists of very little varity.... and the only games on X-Box/X-Box 360 were Dead or Alive 3-4+ Vollyball, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Condemed, and thats it. HALO WAS CRAP. The first X-Box consel was so huge, it was like a end table without the legs. And the cotroler was so bulky... it looked like it was disinged by a 3 year old with a.d.h.d. Now, the 360 the consel looks a lot better, and the size reduction was a nice thing, but when they reduced the controler, it went from to big and bulky, to to small and bulky.
Nintendo.... bless the darkness! Nintendo back in the day was great! Old school Mario; Mario Brothers 3 for example, a timeless classic! But, as time went on, Nintendo lost its place in my heart... N64 came along, and the controler was odd... a pain to get used to, but once they came out with the shark version of the controller, I was happy. The games werent that bad; Pokemon Stadiums 1-2 was so fun, and I still remember the fun I had and the 70+ hours I spent on Ocarena of Time, and the many vs parties I had with freinds while playing Golden Eye and Bomberman64! And sadly... Game Cube came out.... The consel was tiny, so it was ubber easy to store, but the games.... they were tiny as well, I broke a lot of my freinds game cube games... The game quality went to hell. Really, I only enjoyed the Pokemon Colisseum, Mario Sunshine, and Animal Crossing. Thats it. THe controller, I fidn is just so cluttered with buttons, that it is so odd to hold.
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the gamecube games were tiny? So WHAT? What difference does that make? Oh and the N64 controller was sheer perfection, so much better than the ps2 pad with it's two analogue bullshit trying to make things overly complicated.
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| Tongan Ninja wrote: | | the gamecube games were tiny? So WHAT? What difference does that make? Oh and the N64 controller was sheer perfection, so much better than the ps2 pad with it's two analogue bullshit trying to make things overly complicated. |
Tiny is not a bad thing, never said it was. And I hated the layout of the N64 controler, and the origanal disign (big pointy thingy) was a pain on the hands, but I did like the shark version (it was more rounded and the buttons were a bit closer together). But, its all a matter of personal liking. As for the dual joysticks, their so simple to use in syncronitation a little kid can do it! (My 3 year old cousin and I take turns playing Kingdom Hearts and does preatty damn good using both sticks). But then again, for others its a pain, like I said, those were just my thoughts on everything, never more.
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I suppose, but your 3 year old cousin has probably only played the ps2 so he is not used to anything else. I being 24 have grown up with the snes through to this generation and while the ps2 pad is still ahead of the snes controller and the god-awful xbox controller, it just over complicates things like I said. Any time I get the option to not use the dual thing I don't and I flat out avoid the games that force you to use them like a lot of the FPS games.
Oh yeah I forgot too, at least you gave some valid points for not liking it, not like the 'kiddy console' crap or the usual X-Box fan 'but but but, look at the graphics' BS.
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Well, I guess being a duel swordsmen, I am used to using two things in great syncronization.
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