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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:44 pm
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is it just me or is midway starting to make cornier and cornier players 
I hope they start to put more thought in there new characters for now on i dont want another Kobra I shudder at the thought of another Kobra.
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Maybe they'll decide not to scrap all the players in the end... I mean, let's say they produce a game that only has Scorpion and Sub-Zero from the original rosters and the rest are all new, and the game does poorly. The MKTeam might decide to go back to the old rosters.
I think they could have a lot more going if before they scrap them they have a game about Noob Saibot's cyborg Oni attacking the realms, and Nitara's race of Vampire's posing a threat to Outworld. Both of these were predicted by Raiden in his MKDA ending, as well as the return of the Dragon King (which did in fact occur).
But, if they decide to scrap them, they'll have to come up with just as good characters as the classics, and stop coming out with people like Hsu Hao, Movado, Kobra, Mokap, Darriou, Darrius, etc. These characters did absolutly nothing for me and were a waste of character space, they should have replaced them with more classics like Rain, Khameleon, etc.
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:29 am
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| Amphibious wrote: | | But, if they decide to scrap them, they'll have to come up with just as good characters as the classics, and stop coming out with people like Hsu Hao, Movado, Kobra, Mokap, Darriou, Darrius, etc. These characters did absolutly nothing for me and were a waste of character space, they should have replaced them with more classics like Rain, Khameleon, etc. |
Khameleon is classic character? She was only in one game and she was hidden character.  And Mavado is my favorite MK:DA character. (I like people who wear black clothes  ).
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:35 am
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Any characters prior to MK4 I consider classic because they are from the 16/32 bit era of MK. Technically I should include MK4 because it was only after that game that MK took a long break until it returned with MKDA. So I consider Khameleon a classic character since she was in Trilogy.
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Yeah, but wasn't Stryker in Trilogy? I don't think he would ever be a 'classic'
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:02 am
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He's still a classic. I think they even referred to him as a classic character when they mentioned he'd be returning. Or maybe they said 'fan favorites' but I forget.
In any case, my personal opinion for the definition of 'klassic characters' in Mortal Kombat is:
Any character that has been playable or seen in any Mortal Kombat games prior to Mortal Kombat 4.
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:44 am
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| Amphibious wrote: | In any case, my personal opinion for the definition of 'klassic characters' in Mortal Kombat is:
Any character that has been playable or seen in any Mortal Kombat games prior to Mortal Kombat 4. |
Yes, MK1-MK3 are classic games. But in my opinion not every character who appeared in these games can be called ´classic´.
wikipedia: A classic is an item that has become a ubiquitous and unique symbol or icon of a time gone by, mainly because of its inherent quality or its representative status.
So, Khameleon isn´t classic character in my opinion.
But I respect your opinion
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:20 pm
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Shouldn't classics have been in more that one game? Here's what I would consider true classics:
Liu Kang
Baraka
Shang Tsung
Jax
Johnny Cage
Sonya Blade
Sub Zero
Scorpion
Reptile
Then there are 'lesser' classics
Kung Lao
Cyrax
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:07 pm
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| smiley98 wrote: | | Amphibious wrote: | In any case, my personal opinion for the definition of 'klassic characters' in Mortal Kombat is:
Any character that has been playable or seen in any Mortal Kombat games prior to Mortal Kombat 4. |
Yes, MK1-MK3 are classic games. But in my opinion not every character who appeared in these games can be called ´classic´.
wikipedia: A classic is an item that has become a ubiquitous and unique symbol or icon of a time gone by, mainly because of its inherent quality or its representative status.
So, Khameleon isn´t classic character in my opinion.
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I admit, Khameleon wasn't the best choice for a classic character since she only appeared as a hidden character in MKT. But I had a blank mind when I was writing that post and I forgot about a lot of the other characters that I should have mentioned instead. Also, wikipedia is a public encyclopedia that can be edited at any time by anyone.  I don't know how much merit it has.
I still stand by my prior definition however:
Any character that has been playable or seen in any Mortal Kombat games prior to Mortal Kombat 4. which would encompase any of the 16/32 bit games like MK1, MK2, MK3, UMK3 and MKT.
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But shouldn't a classic be recognised by a vast majority? You know, ones that have traits that can be remembered by the common man, not just the hardcore fans?
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Kung Lao is definitely NOT a LESSER classic. He's up there with Liu Kang.
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:09 pm
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| Tongan Ninja wrote: | | But shouldn't a classic be recognised by a vast majority? You know, ones that have traits that can be remembered by the common man, not just the hardcore fans? |
Anyone who played the classic games should remember those characters. And even if they don't, then they're probably not big enough fans anyways. You don't have to be hardcore to remember people like Kabal, Rain and Jade from the 16 bit era.
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| fittedhatslim wrote: | | well since this going to be the last mortal kombat game with this generation of characters which most likely means a good bit will b killed cuz this basically da last game dealing wit the war with good and evil...since there wont b alot of good characters dat we all love and enjoy that may not make it to next games cuz of Armageddon for example: scorpion, sub zero, reptile, baraka, lui kang (fuck if he dies das kool cuz he gets annoying anyways), raiden, shao kahn etc....do you guys thank that the new games that comes out for the PS3 and X-Box 360 are gonna be completely shitty cause after Armageddon you will never EVER see any of the characters you liked or that you were used to seeing be on the next upcoming mortal kombat games unless you were playing MK1-MKD? i thought about this for a while just didnt have time to post it |
Never talk ever again. Spell out your words "cuz" nobody likes to read bambling posts. Also educate yourself a bit on MK before you make obscene and weird posts.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:39 pm
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| thedeadknight wrote: | | fittedhatslim wrote: | | well since this going to be the last mortal kombat game with this generation of characters which most likely means a good bit will b killed cuz this basically da last game dealing wit the war with good and evil...since there wont b alot of good characters dat we all love and enjoy that may not make it to next games cuz of Armageddon for example: scorpion, sub zero, reptile, baraka, lui kang (fuck if he dies das kool cuz he gets annoying anyways), raiden, shao kahn etc....do you guys thank that the new games that comes out for the PS3 and X-Box 360 are gonna be completely shitty cause after Armageddon you will never EVER see any of the characters you liked or that you were used to seeing be on the next upcoming mortal kombat games unless you were playing MK1-MKD? i thought about this for a while just didnt have time to post it |
Never talk ever again. Spell out your words "cuz" nobody likes to read bambling posts. Also educate yourself a bit on MK before you make obscene and weird posts. |
hey now. we don't insult people here. if you don't agree with how he types or what he has to say, try stating your opinion in a respectful manner, okay?
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Well, i hate the idea of them killing off so many characters when they really could come up with something better (have them retire, or whatever.. anything is better than just killing them off). It seems obvious to me that they ran out of ideas, so they are taking the easy way out and just killing most of them off. which is really stupid imo. I don't really have any least fave char, i like them all for diff reasons. They all could certainly be utilized in future games for as long as they keep making mk games. Sure, alot of the new chars seemed unoriginal, probably because they have a certain formula for mk chars; a projectile (fireball), and some other type special moves (teleport or type of kick), fatality, and ending.
I didn't mind kobra or mavado, drahmin, etc. I didn't care if Kobra is like ken masters, MK is not Street fighter. totally diff fighting games. So kobra is original in the world of mk. Liu kang is alot like fei long and martial Law. Actually they are all based on Bruce lee, which i really don't mind one bit. Kabal is like Darth Vader, Scorpion looks like Skeletor (his face at least), subzero is like iceman; i could go on and on comparing just about any mk char to someone else. That doesn't make me like them any less. i judge them by their own merits; ease of use, moves, looks etc. What chars are good or not is really a matter of preference and opinion. Any ''bad'' character can win matches and look good in the hands of an expert player, & even the best fighter can look like crap in the hands of a novice.
It will certainly be different to have all new chars in the next mk, but not any diff than any other mk release. Obviously video game characters never stay dead forever, so who knows? Maybe some of them will be back sometime down the line. IMO, mk8 will never be as good as mkA. Unless it has 60+ chars, which I doubt. I hope they keep the KAK mode so players can make whoever they want. That would be fine by me, and I hope they do just that. I kind of look forward to seeing how much improved the graphics would be on the next gen mk game. If I don't like what i see, i won't buy it. MKA looks like the ''Ultimate'' mk game to me, so It wouldn't break my heart one bit if it was the last mk game they made. I mean, if they can't come up with new ideas for the current roster, how can they do it for any new roster? Well, to me, i like to get more for my money, so mkA with 60+ chars will be infinitely superior to any mk game with less chars.
as far as chars i could see returning; Raiden (he's a god so he's immortal)
Scorpion (he's already dead, so he's immortal too) Shinnok (a god) Fujin (a god) Ashra (a demon, therefore, immortal) Blaze (he's made of fire, how can you kill him? Water? perhaps) Nitara (a vampire, undead & immortal) liu Kang (also undead) Ermac (he's made of souls, which are immortal) Not sure if Oni count as demons or not, if so, then Drahmin and Moloch would be immortal. If shao kahn is a god (and raiden's bro, like in the movie) he'd live too. gods can never die, their mortal form can be destroyed but they can just come back again.
basically, anyone who's not a god, demon, vampire, elemental, or undead is fair game. I'm really surprised at how many immortals are in Mortal Kombat.
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