|
|
|
|
|
 |
onretilom
MATT THE MANIAC
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 225
TMK Koins: 5241903
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:55 am
Post subject: i h8 it how some people think scorp and h-smoke are the same |
 |
| |
|
i mean really, human smoke has much better pop-ups than scorp which is y he is so much higher in the tier list that scorpion; and he is a much better corner punisher than him too. its just that, since people think that h-smoke has a spear, tele-punch, air throw, is a ninja pallete swap, and he has scorp's axe, they consider him a gray scorpion. thats annoying and i find it a shame to mk players if they dont spot these differences.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cory13
Lead Lin Kuei Assassin
Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 650
Location: Lin Kuei Courtyards
TMK Koins: 12989
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:18 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
The only way i think they are the same is their moves..but their bio's are much different,Smokes a Lin Kuei ninja..Scorpion is Sheri ryu or how ever u spell it.. (lol,funny how i memorized how to spell lin kuei but not scorp's clan)
and i dont find those difference cuz i dont realy care about who has what weapon when they do a fast combo and temperaly pull out an axe or somefin that u see for a second.
_________________
Highest Fatality: 8: Vicous Fatality
Kreate A Fighter: Scar Face
Damashi
Vorpious
Khamelon
King Jared
Cory (myself)
Ghost
Motor Kombat: 1st 5/5
Konquest: 100% (Completed 3 Times In A Row)
Last edited by Cory13 on Mon May 01, 2006 11:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DreemerNJ
TMK Temple Monk
Joined: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 246
TMK Koins: 65
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:38 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
| Cory13 wrote: |
and i dont find those difference cuz i dont realy care about who has what weapon when they do a fast combo and temperaly pull out an axe or somefin that u see for a second |
Well he was talking about MK players because if you play against others the differences he points out make a big difference. Just general fans of the game, these differences mean little.
_________________
UltimateMK.com - The ULTIMATE Source of Kompetitive Mortal Kombat Information
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cory13
Lead Lin Kuei Assassin
Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 650
Location: Lin Kuei Courtyards
TMK Koins: 12989
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:37 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
hmmm Ok.But who else has weapons like scorpion and the ninjas like the axe?
_________________
Highest Fatality: 8: Vicous Fatality
Kreate A Fighter: Scar Face
Damashi
Vorpious
Khamelon
King Jared
Cory (myself)
Ghost
Motor Kombat: 1st 5/5
Konquest: 100% (Completed 3 Times In A Row)
Last edited by Cory13 on Mon May 01, 2006 11:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DreemerNJ
TMK Temple Monk
Joined: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 246
TMK Koins: 65
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:48 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
Noob Saibot, Human Smoke, and Scorpion have the axe.
_________________
UltimateMK.com - The ULTIMATE Source of Kompetitive Mortal Kombat Information
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
smiley98
Servant of pain
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 1305
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow...
TMK Koins: 23020
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:46 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
| DreemerNJ wrote: | | Noob Saibot, Human Smoke, and Scorpion have the axe. |
I have never seen Noob Saibot using the axe in MKT. I must play it again 
_________________
DEVELOPER DIARIES
Look at my other comics (on MK Pavilion) here:
http://tabmok99.mortalkombatonline.com/comic-smiley98.html
Feedback highly welcomed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DreemerNJ
TMK Temple Monk
Joined: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 246
TMK Koins: 65
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:53 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
I dont think he does it in MKT, just in UMK3 for the arcade. In UMK3 he has Kano's combos for the most part, as in the same button hits but he uses the ninja frames of animation.
_________________
UltimateMK.com - The ULTIMATE Source of Kompetitive Mortal Kombat Information
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
onretilom
MATT THE MANIAC
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 225
TMK Koins: 5241903
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:26 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
|
well what gets me upset is how most mk fans look as h-smoke as a gray scorpion since he has a teleport punch, spear, ninja outfit, air throw and 1 combo. but the thing is, smoke is faster, better air fighter, and just better in general, but most people don't care about these.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DreemerNJ
TMK Temple Monk
Joined: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 246
TMK Koins: 65
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:05 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
Yeah pretty much. Most people don't know or care about the differences. Human Smoke is, as you said, faster, he has very good priority on the air throw, he has the standard ninja moveset which is good to start with, and he has the combos that make him the #2 character in the game. Having a popup combo is key factor and having one that starts off a kick (low hit) makes it even better.
_________________
UltimateMK.com - The ULTIMATE Source of Kompetitive Mortal Kombat Information
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
smiley98
Servant of pain
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 1305
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow...
TMK Koins: 23020
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:12 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
| Quote: | | ...that make him the #2 character in the game. |
Who´s the #1 character in the game? Sorry, but I don´t know the game as much as you do 
_________________
DEVELOPER DIARIES
Look at my other comics (on MK Pavilion) here:
http://tabmok99.mortalkombatonline.com/comic-smiley98.html
Feedback highly welcomed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
krsx66
TMK Visitor
Joined: 04 Jul 2004
Posts: 6
Location: toronto
TMK Koins: 50
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:46 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
| smiley98 wrote: |
Who´s the #1 character in the game? Sorry, but I don´t know the game as much as you do |
Kabal.
---
Although many think H. Smoke is a Scorp clone, and are very wrong, I also think that those who do know the huge differences then tend to underappreciate Scorpion. Ok, there is no real reason to use him since Smoke is a suped up version, but Scorpion is a pretty effective character on his own (I think mid tier). I'm not even a Scorpion fanboy, but I find him fun to use in UMK3 occasionaly.
His forward teleport is great in MKT, it's unfortunate they didn't give it to him for UMK3. I think the CPU can even do it to you in Ultimate...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DreemerNJ
TMK Temple Monk
Joined: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 246
TMK Koins: 65
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:15 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
Yeah Scorpion is definately mid-tier, not a bad character. And honestly if you are just playing casual games, you are better off using Every character at some point. It will just make you better at the game. Its one thing to always use a particular character in tournament play or something, but for casuals go for random every time.
I think they started to make Scorpion pretty cool in Trilogy with the forward teleport. I think I mentioned before if they had made it less punishable or something it would have helped him a lot, and it gives him a very different feel then H.Smoke.
_________________
UltimateMK.com - The ULTIMATE Source of Kompetitive Mortal Kombat Information
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Amphibious
The Shadowy Usurper
Joined: 23 Jul 2002
Posts: 2022
Location: Toronto, Canada
TMK Koins: 1010
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:17 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
| DreemerNJ wrote: | | I dont think he does it in MKT, just in UMK3 for the arcade. In UMK3 he has Kano's combos for the most part, as in the same button hits but he uses the ninja frames of animation. |
Noob Saibot had Kano's moves in standard MK3. They gave him his own in UMK3/MKT.
As for Human Smoke being a Scorpion pallett swap, I agree in part because there is a lot of him that is just like Scorpion. Having said that, I find his combos to be better and he's a faster fighter. I prefer human Smoke over Scorpion both as when playing as him and just his character.
_________________
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
LinKuei Master
SCION OF BALANCE
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Traped in my mind but I'm not alone
TMK Koins: 20
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:33 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
We thats about done nothing left to say about them except I still play with Scorpion over H-smoke cuz hes come from MK1 Smoke was a secrate player in MKII and MK3 as some one said hes a supped up version of scorp {a cheat player if you like }
I don't need to cheat, if you could play as the 1st Reptile in MK1 with the extra speed both Subzero's and Scorpion's moves it would be kool but you wouldn't do it all the time and thats how i feel about H-Smoke.
{I am a Scorpion fan boy}
 
_________________
Nothing is free! Not even revenge!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
krsx66
TMK Visitor
Joined: 04 Jul 2004
Posts: 6
Location: toronto
TMK Koins: 50
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:34 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
| DreemerNJ wrote: | Yeah Scorpion is definately mid-tier, not a bad character. And honestly if you are just playing casual games, you are better off using Every character at some point. It will just make you better at the game. Its one thing to always use a particular character in tournament play or something, but for casuals go for random every time.
I think they started to make Scorpion pretty cool in Trilogy with the forward teleport. I think I mentioned before if they had made it less punishable or something it would have helped him a lot, and it gives him a very different feel then H.Smoke. |
Yes random select is usualy best, a lot of people I play on mame go for random. Gets even better when they know the 444-444 kombat kode.
And yeah, he needed his own separate feel. In UMK3 I think the only differences for him are two combos, the 4 hit kick combo and the 3 hit; HP, HP, Up + LP one - which I'm still trying to find some use for...
And it seems he got progressively better through Umk3 right to MKDA, he was definitely a lot of fun to use in MK4/G - one of the few characters that is any fun to use in that game. His air throw is especialy awesome.
| Amphibious wrote: |
Noob Saibot had Kano's moves in standard MK3. They gave him his own in UMK3/MKT. |
I don't think he had his own moves in Arcade UMK3. The only difference between MK3 Noob and UMK3 is that they used the ninja sprites instead of Kano's I believe (still dunno why they didn't use a blackened Sub Zero in MK3...). Oh, and he's playable in Wavenet UMK3.
_________________
http://tabmok99.mortalkombatonline.com/mortal_kombat_apocalypse.wmv
Mortal Kombat Apocalypse compilation combo video now available for DOWNLOAD!!! (46MB's - Right click - Save As, or open in IE)
(Many thanks to ]{0MBAT for hosting)
|
|
|
|
|
|
| All times are GMT | Page 1 of 2
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
| |
|
| | |
