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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:26 am
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BACK! That's right, in an interview with Ed Boon, it was mentioned that Meat will in fact be one of the hidden characters of the game.
For those of you who have know idea who this is, Meat is a bloody skeleton featured in MK4 as a hidden character. He had no moves of his own, he was just a model that assumed the moves of whatever character you chose. Also, I recall him being in UMK3/MKT but I can't find any images or proof of this. But I remember seeing it in a gamer magazine a long time ago with my friend, who also remembers it. I think we both lost our minds but if not then yes, Meat would also have been in UMK3/MKT.
So, what are your thoughts? To me, this means that they literally putting in every character from previous games. Meat didn't have moves of his own and has never been listed on any character card or anything, and he's in the game. That gives me the impression we're going to see other characters like Khameleon in here as well.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:07 am
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Well, I'd be excited/impressed, but you didn't provide a link to the interview, or even say which video it is and where we can find it.
Sorry, but I can't say much of anything yet.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:35 am
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he said it in the gamespot interview (which ofcourse can be found at gamespot.com)
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:22 am
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I remember meat! x3 this'll sure make things interesting lol
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:03 pm
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Meat was, first of all, regardless of his appearance in Deception's konquest, is a costume, not a character. While I have heard quite a lot rumors spreading and until I see/read the interview myself I cannot pronounce any further disclaimer. But I'm not surprised that Ed Boon would say something like that due to nostalgia, but it does seem somewhat pointless to add extra work consuidering he's not, technically, a character by definition.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:49 pm
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Yeah i heard that too but even if he wasn't a real character before if ed boons adding him as a unlockable of course he'll give him his own moves and maybe a fatality.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:25 pm
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| Daneasaur wrote: | Well, I'd be excited/impressed, but you didn't provide a link to the interview, or even say which video it is and where we can find it.
Sorry, but I can't say much of anything yet. |
Here's the link to the interview: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html it was posted already in another thread titled "New Boss Character Announced!" by fly_guy_mike, which is why I didn't post it. I figured you people would have seen it already or found it for yourself. But oh well, there it is for those who didn't.
| Quote: | | Meat was, first of all, regardless of his appearance in Deception's konquest, is a costume, not a character. While I have heard quite a lot rumors spreading and until I see/read the interview myself I cannot pronounce any further disclaimer. But I'm not surprised that Ed Boon would say something like that due to nostalgia, but it does seem somewhat pointless to add extra work consuidering he's not, technically, a character by definition. |
In Shaolin Monks we see similar characters to Meat, called 'bloody skeletons' (seen in Outworld while on the boat). Considering Smoke was a colour pallette swapped Scorpion originally, as was Reptile in MK1, I'd hardly say Meat isn't his own character. They just haven't gotten around to expanding his biography and giving him his own moves. I could argue Khameleon isn't a real character because she just copies other characters moves, if I were to follow your logic. But she is, as is Meat. He's featured in Konquest mode as his own, seperate character.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:10 pm
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...and maybe Meat will be playable in the same way like in MK4. He can be just only costume and not character 
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:56 pm
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| smiley98 wrote: | | ...and maybe Meat will be playable in the same way like in MK4. He can be just only costume and not character |
That's like saying Reptile in MK1 wasn't a character, or Smoke, Jade and Noob weren't characters in MK2. It's rediculous. Even IF he only assumed the moves of other characters, he'd still be his own as he was featured in Konquest as a seperate entity. He could also still have his own ending or bio if he still used other character's moves as well.
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:43 pm
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| Amphibious wrote: | | smiley98 wrote: | | ...and maybe Meat will be playable in the same way like in MK4. He can be just only costume and not character |
That's like saying Reptile in MK1 wasn't a character, or Smoke, Jade and Noob weren't characters in MK2. It's rediculous. Even IF he only assumed the moves of other characters, he'd still be his own as he was featured in Konquest as a seperate entity. He could also still have his own ending or bio if he still used other character's moves as well. |
I haven´t said that he won´t be fully-fledged character. I just said that it is POSSIBLE that he will be only bonus costume in MK:A (the way he was back in MK4!).
And there is difference between Meat and the other secret characters.
When Jade/Smoke/Reptile... won, then there was the sign Jade/Smoke/Reptile... wins.
But when you used Meat, there was only Kai/Raiden/Shinnok... wins.
Even Chameleon who I don´t consider as real character had his ´Chameleon wins´.
Think about it a little
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:08 pm
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| Quote: | | I haven´t said that he won´t be fully-fledged character. I just said that it is POSSIBLE that he will be only bonus costume in MK:A (the way he was back in MK4!). |
You stated:
| smiley98 wrote: | | ...and maybe Meat will be playable in the same way like in MK4. He can be just only costume and not character |
Sounds to me like you said he 'can be just only costume and not character' which translates to him not being a character, just a costume. While is was posed as a "maybe" statement, the fact is you worded it like he was only a model, not an actual character.
| Quote: | And there is difference between Meat and the other secret characters.
When Jade/Smoke/Reptile... won, then there was the sign Jade/Smoke/Reptile... wins. But when you used Meat, there was only Kai/Raiden/Shinnok... wins. |
Granted, but that is 1 sound bite. Other than that and the name on the health bar, there's no other difference.
| Quote: | | Even Chameleon who I don´t consider as real character had his ´Chameleon wins´. |
Like I said above, it's just a sound bite. And I still consider Chamelion a character, but I don't see him as one of Reptile's species. It just said he was one of Shao Kahn's deadliest warriors in MKT.
| Quote: | | Think about it a little |
Oh I have, but I still believe Meat is his own legitimate character, even though he just used the moves of other people. The fact he was in Konqest mode, that there are other entities like him (bloody skeletons in Shaolin Monks) and that he's not the first character to use other people's moves shows that he's a legit character.
 I'm not folding on this issue. For those of you who want to see the infamous Meat, here he is:
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Ok, Mr. I-know-everything, we will see in October. And the winner of this debate can perform fatality on the loser 
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:16 pm
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| smiley98 wrote: | | Ok, Mr. I-know-everything, we will see in October. And the winner of this debate can perform fatality on the looser |
I look forward to it. 
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 12:15 am
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Like i said before If Meat is in this game as a unlockable im betting he'll have his own moves and his own fatality and everything just had to post this again seeing as it got ignored before haha.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 12:27 am
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| doug wrote: | | Like i said before If Meat is in this game as a unlockable im betting he'll have his own moves and his own fatality and everything just had to post this again seeing as it got ignored before haha. |
 We didn't forget it, we just got into a heated debate over Meat being a character or costume, so it was pushed aside. Sorry about that doug.
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