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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:47 am
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Deceived again?
I see there is a petition for a Game Cube version of Mortal Kombat Armageddon. I read the idea on the site that it linked to. I think this is a bad idea. Mortal Kombat did indeed start its console run, badly, on the SNES. Nintendo did not make a great, or even good game like the petition says. The SNES had better detail, but no blood and gore. So, because of that, the Sega version was actually a far better of a game. Remember, the gore is one of the huge things that made MK1 stand out in its time. Without it, even with better detailed graphics on the SNES, it looses its edge. Think of it as Friday the 13Th without blood and gore, you loose like 60% of the controversial edge and appeal. Now, lets look at the Game-Cube legacy. Deadly Alliance on Game-Cube was ok. But the PS2 had better graphics than the Game-Cube. Let us also remember that the X-Box had better graphics than the PS2. So, truly, the Game-Cube Deadly Alliance was the low man on the totem pole of quality. Then there is the cursed MK Deception. The Game-Cube version of Mortal Kombat Deception was never intended to have been made. It wasn't originally going to be made. And it should not have been made. What we got was a game that came later on than the original, and superior, versions. Sense the Game-Cube has no online abilities being less than par; and because the graphics are third down the totem pole, and because it was released months after the PS2 and X-Box, Midway felt bad for their cash cow. So, they decided to add to characters to the inferior contraption, Goro and Shao Kahn. This way all the fans of MK who bought the game on the systems it was intended for would feel inadequate and have to buy the game all over again at $30 bucks a pop so that Midway could cash in on the game all over again and not have to make a new MK for a while. Cheap, cheesy, and a stab in the heart of loyal fans who already bought the game.
Now you want Armageddon to go to Game-Cube? NO! I bought a PS2 for Deception because Midway said it would not be for the Game-Cube because, well basically, the Game-Cube sucked compared to the other 2. I see it happening this way. Long after, 4-6 months, the real games get released for the real systems. Because of petitions like this, there will be a limited Game-Cube edition. Midway will want to hold something exclusive for this game. So characters that are rare like Meat, Chameleon, and Khameleon, will not be released except on the Game-Cube version. In other words, because of people who petition like you, the graphically superior X-Box game will not have all the characters because Midway will save some for the Game-Cube. How do I know this?
I am using common sense and looking at past history. They did it once, they will do it again.
Thank you, and yes I am bitter, good night.
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:11 am
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I have a Gamecube and I prefer to play MK on it. It loads faster and has the best graphics out of the 3 current consoles. I am sick of people winging aout how MKD on GC got Shao Kahn and Goro...I thought that was cool, just because you hate GC you winge about this, even tho you are getting Shao Kahn and Goro in Armageddon, Midway always releases there exclusive characters on the later games.
MK Gold: Sektor,Goro,Noob,Kung Lao,Kitana,Mileena,Baraka,Cyrax.
|_>>> MKDA: Kung Lao,Kitana,Cyrax
|_ >>> MKD: Mileena,Baraka,Noob,Goro (cube)
|_ >>> MKTE: Sektor,Noob
|_ >>> MKA: Sektor,Noob,Goro
MK TE: Sareena,Sektor,Noob
|_ >>> MKD: Noob.
|_ >>> MKA: Sareena,Sektor
Do you see?
Midway always put the exclusive characters into the next game on other systems.
Just remember, if it wasn't for the Gamecube version, you wouldn't have Goro and Shao Kahn in Amrageddon, well you would cause this game includes all characters, but because they were ready, that gave the team time to work on all the other characters and get the game ut faster.
All hail Gamecube!
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:51 am
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I'm a huge Nintendo nut! That's not why I was annoyed at GC's extras...I was annoyed 'cause I already owned Deception for Xbox and I didn't want to rebuy the game though I really really REALLY wanted to use botht those characters so I was mixed with depression and annoyance...
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Midway has a long, and sad, history for doing that. Just because it is tradition to make people buy a game all over again for two or five characters doesn't make it right. Trilogy, and Gold, where ok. That is because they where both true blue updates. They got backgrounds, features, and characters. This warrants a full new game. Two characters as a quick cashing off of popularity does not deserve respect, it deserves disgust. It is not the same thing. I have seen a gaming site that compared MKDA on X-Box, PS2, and Game-Cube. They are all equal in content, but the Game-Cube does have the least graphics. It is inferior. When will Nintendo "nuts" admit that the Game-Cube, because of lesser graphics and no online, is an inferior system and that is the ONLY reason why it gets special favors. It's like Bobby gets an A so he gets ice cream. Joe is stupid and gets a D. Mommy feels so bad that Joe feels "left behind" for being inferior to Bobby, so Joe gets ice cream with sprinkles. Nintendo has gotten special characters, updates, and add-ons for their games so that the games sell at all. Third party developers want to make a buck and KNOW that NO ONE would buy it if it didn't have anything exclusive for the Game-Cube because the system is two miles behind everyone else. Don't yell at me for preaching the truth.
I am complaining because Game-Cube never deserved what it got. It got it out of pity. This is a fact MOST third party developers won't even give Game-Cube the time of day. It was never supposed to be for Game-Cube. I spent B-Day money on a freaking PS2 almost INTIRLY to play MKD. Then to realize that I spent all that money on a system to buy a game, just to have the company use a cheap trick months later to emotionally rape their fans into buying something they have all over again. It sickened me. I was literally sickened, and felt betrayed. Midway used the popularity of two of their name characters to emotionality rape their fans into buying a game they already had for two more characters. I will still love and buy MKs. But I may never truly forgive Midway for this.
I have a Game-Cube. But I will NEVER give Midway the satisfaction of my $30.00 more dollars after they already got $210.00 for a PS2, and Kollectors MKD. Well, Sony got the $150.00, but that was because of Midway.
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:00 pm
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I belive that Gamecube has the best graphics out of the 3, I don't see the big deal here...so what, Cube got 2 characters...why are you wingining and saying "Midway won't get my $30" who cares if they wont, you get to use Shao and Goro in Armageddon, and you will buy that right?
I don't think that MKT and Gold are "True Blue" upgraded, they added characters and a few backgrounds, thats all. Just because they added a few backgrounds, I don't think that warrents being called a purchase worthy upgrade...honestly, do you buy the game for the characters or backgrounds...hey I like to have both, of course but at the end of the day you get more play out of the characters.
I belive all MK games are worth the purchase...only $30...you are lucky, Deception Cube didn't even come out here in Australia, and if it did it would cost $89.95.
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MKT 5 characters and more backgrounds than I care to count right now. MKG, 6 characters, and at least 4 backgrounds that come to mind; maybe more. MKD GC, 2 characters. Not to mention MKT added aggressor bar and MKG added weapon choice. ALL MKD GC added was 2 characters. This are the difference from true blue upgrades and a cheap cash cow.
It has been proven by official sources time and time again that Game-Cube is weakest in graphics. And lets just say graphics are about a 60-70% of what sells a game. Look at it. MK1 to MKA. Pact-Man to Diablo. Hardly anybody played video games except video game fans before graphics became what they are today. Now many people from many different backgrounds than just video games play video games. Sports fans, gamblers, race-car fans. Graphics have helped sell games for ages. And, sometimes where the only things really selling a game by some people's point of view.
Think of it this way as well. Graphics, such as blood, helped hugely to sell MK1. So not seeing the GC as inferior and saying, no big deal, only showing ignorance in the realm of understanding the video game market.
Some people by with loyalty and deny the facts. Some people by with popularity. Some by with specs. The X-Box has the best specs. The PS2 has the best popularity. And people who where loyal to Nintendo, or cheap, bought the GC. The only reason PS2 is popular is because online and DVD features are free, and people are cheap.
So, to some it up, people who want the best system play an X-Box. People who want a popular system, or are too cheap to pay for X-Box live, buy a PS2. And people who are loyal to the greatness Nintendo once was, or want to save $50.00 in buying a system, but the GC. That is the truth about console breakdown.
I am guilty as well. I know this because this is how I see it. I own a GC and PS2. I bought a GC because I grew up on Nintendo. I bought the PS2 because I realized after a long time of denial that the system was indeed inferior. I realized that MOST, OVERWEALMING MOST, 3rd part developers did not develop for GC because lack of a consumer base and lack of online play, and low-rez graphics. In short, most serious gamers played PS2 and X-Box and only kids play GC. There where almost no good "M" rated games on the system because 3rd party developers knew that the 17 and up crows looked down and literally laughed at the GC. It was a kids system, NOT a real video game system. At least in the eyes of the public.
I was ASHAMED of owning the GC. For the first half of the system's life I couldn't even tell my classmates that I owned the system without getting a smirk or a laugh and them just shaking there head at me and the look on their face telling me that I had bought a bum deal. So, MKD not being for the GC made sense because the GC was proven technically, and by popularity, to suck, to suck really big. So, I knew to safe face as a video game player, I had to ditch little kiddy Nintendo. It's like throwing away a baby toy. You feel sad for it, but people keep making fun of you if you keep it with you because its so pathetic. In my view, with little exception, people who defend the GC just haven’t allowed themselves to see the truth yet. I remember I felt bad and used to defend it too. It's like telling your friends you watched BARNEY. Everyone did, some people still do, but NO ONE admits to it.
That's what it is like owning a GC. You have this big, erm small, purple thing that you can't tell your friends about for fear of shame. I still have it, and I am being dramatic. But, seriously, it was hindering me to not have another system too.
So, maybe now you see why after emotionally and psychologically going through ALL of this. I was mad that they turned a full 180 and decided to make one for the GC anyway. I was out $150.00 bucks on a system just to play one game that was never met to be for the system I had, with good reason, and ended up on it anyway. That was bad enough. NOW, NOW because of it being a bad system, it gets two more characters! Its one of those moments you're happy you don't have a pistol for fear you’d have blown your own brains out. "Sarcastic, not suicidal here."
I am mad at Midway for giving special favors to a bucket of junk that didn't even deserve the game, let alone favors. I went through a lot inside myself to ditch this system for a new one. Just to have the straw that broke the camel's back to turn around and change its mind? I felt betrayed. I was trying to show that I was a true MK fan to such a point that I could turn my back on a system I was once loyal to, to fallow one of my favorite series.
My sacrifice was in vain. And one of the worst parts is that no one seems to care. I honestly went through a lot to make this sacrifice for a game that was near and dear to me. All this, and no one cares. Midway never even responded to my complaint letter. Not even, "thanks for the opinion." Another online message board told me to shut up. And no one seems to get the fact I feel betrayed because I made a personal sacrifice that may seem pitiful to everyone else but was something special to me. It was my B-Day money. And it was supposed to be a testament to my fanatic fandom. It's like shooting yourself in your foot with your new gun you bought with your own B-Day money and everyone else just tells you to shut up.
I think, in the VERY LEAST, I want people to see that what they did was wrong, and empathies. Yes, I am being dramatic. But I am hurt by this and really expected more than, "shut up and eat your cheese sandwich," attitude; to quote Aqua Team. Is it so much to ask to remove the conspiracy of silence?
Midway made a less than honorable move to make a buck. That's all I want people to be able to say.
I still don’t have an X-Box, and feel bad for it. It bought the PS2 because it was popular, so, I am no better than most in that respect. But this scars me to this day. Do I buy MKA? I don’t want to run out and say MKA is going to be my favorite MK of all time. Then buy an X-Box to get the best version. Then get the Kollector’s edition if there is one. All to find out that characters like Meat, Chameleon, and Khameleon, probably won’t be in it. “Which are true MK fighters. Tremor wasn’t.” Then, to everyone’s not so much surprise, find out a system I already have, the GC, will probably get a version too. It will be low-rez graphics. And it will probably have these 3 characters and maybe even Tremor to make up for longer waiting for the release and no online play. So, see how this scars me even till today? I can’t trust to buy a Midway product until I’ve reviewed all the versos. Otherwise I’m likely to get screwed again. So everyone else is now happy, and I’m in a corner making myself sick over this.
I'm not trying to say they're awful people at Midway. I did before on another forum that heckled me and egged me on. I am sorry for that because, truly, they are not awful people. This has been done in video games for ages, but that doesn’t make it right to do cheap tricks like this.
I made what was for me a very personal, and difficult inner sacrifice. I rushed out, somewhat betrayed a child-friend called “Nintendo” to buy the less that best system that was popular, “PS2.” I did this and would have been fine with it. I did this so that I could enjoy MKD, what I planed to be my favorite game of all time. I also wanted it on the system that everyone else was going to be on. It may not have been the best, but at that time, I say PS2 as close enough. I don’t anymore but without the GC MKD fiasco I would have seen PS2 as good enough. I spent $150.00 of my B-Day money on the system. And registered for Kollector’s Edition. I wanted to go all the way. This was my tribute to myself and to my love for MK and what I saw as what was in my eyes to be at the time the best MK game of all time. Which, now seems, like what might be MKA.
“Shakes fists at sky in protest.” I am sorry for anything I’ve ever said, am saying, or probably will say bad about Midway, Mortal Kombat, or anything else and everyone related to this fiasco in any way shape or form; beyond all things that my words can here express! I am sorry!!
Midway made a less than honorable move for a buck and it hurt me. All I want is an I'm sorry from Midway. Or, at least, and I understand and agree from my fellow MK peers. That’s all I really want. Some kind of justification for all I went through. Thank you, and good night.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:19 am
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that is a outrage ps2 an xbox should have a bonus character seeing as gamecube is the worst consol out their at thr moment
PS: no anger to nintendo but they just made a blunder on the lame cube
PPS: it was not misspelt because it is lame
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:02 pm
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...the gamecube has a lot more to offer than Xbox lovers think...with definitely the most originality and classic fighting...with characters we all love...
...no matter how many hardcore Halo freaks there are...there are a lot more people wearin' Mario and Zelda shirts rather than the Legendary symbol...get it through your head...Nintendo will always rule the platforming world...
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i have no problem with the games or characters heck some of the best gaming characters r from nintendo i just dont think the console was a good choice
PS: i am not a halo freak i have a ps2 but i do enjoy playin halo on pc once in a wile
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| l{ombat_l{rave wrote: | ...the gamecube has a lot more to offer than Xbox lovers think...with definitely the most originality and classic fighting...with characters we all love...
...no matter how many hardcore Halo freaks there are...there are a lot more people wearin' Mario and Zelda shirts rather than the Legendary symbol...get it through your head...Nintendo will always rule the platforming world... |
I'm an xBox lover, and I liked the ole Cube.
Why do you have to be so judgemental 
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no offens to u or any game cube nut out there im not tryin to insult anyone in any way the nintendo company is my fav right next to square enix (FINAL FANTASY ROCKS!!!!!) so take no offense to it because that is one person's opinion
PS: NINTENDO HAS SOME OF THE BEST GAMES EVER
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