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| MoonEye821 wrote: | | If Midway says every character back, and everyone is back but one, then the creators of the game told a lie to us. When Clinton lied, no one let him live it down for years. So don't call it unnecessary. He is a true character. No amount of your belittling him will erase the fact that Midway will be liars if he isn't in the game. |
...who are you talking about? Meat or Chameleon?
...I read in some interview (God know where) that they're considering K/Chameleon though they never mentioned Meat...and I don't believe he should even be considered either...works for me...
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| MoonEye821 wrote: | | If Midway says every character back, and everyone is back but one, then the creators of the game told a lie to us. When Clinton lied, no one let him live it down for years. So don't call it unnecessary. He is a true character. No amount of your belittling him will erase the fact that Midway will be liars if he isn't in the game. |
Oh my God! Bill Clinton is going to be playable character in MK:A!!! Otherwise I won´t buy it! And don´t say he´s not true character, because he IS 
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I’m sorry. I was wrong to bring logic into a world that has little. It is all my fault. I misunderstood. I thought that false advertisement was illegal. I was under the impression that a company’s promise had value. I mean, they promised all Mortal Kombat fighting characters to return and I somehow misconstrued that into meaning that all the characters from the Mortal Kombat fighting games where supposed to come back. I am truly and honestly sorry. How could I be so foolish as to use logic and reason? I mean excuse me for thinking that my MK fan peers would have the deducing powers I have. I guess the Koncept of every fighting character returning actually meaning what is spelled out word for word was too much for me to except you to be able to process. I can only hope that with time wisdom and knowledge will come to the rest of you as it has come to me. Until then, I am sorry for introducing and advanced concept into a social mechanism prematurely. There are two roads that can be taken. I can A, explain it to you until you understand. Or I can B, let you teach yourself. That is true for all things. We can learn ourselves or be taught. I decided to let you all riddle the rest of this out on your own. I don’t want to make your brains implode from the sheer gravity of grasping such a vast and unreachable Koncept that, “every fighting character backs,” means that every single fighting characters is promised to come back. I mean, truly, I excepted your brain’s synapses to at this stage in your life actually leap across such a vast a vapid chasm? How dare I!?! I will let you wait in ignorance then until you are ready to pull yourselves out of ignorance and teach yourselves that, “every single fighting character back,” means that every single fighting characters is promised to come back. In closing, I truly apologize for the inconvenience of introducing a topic which obviously requires such grappling thought and processing. It was my mistake and I am sorry. *Hands you a jack in the box.* Here you go. I hope this better fits. If you turn this little handle all the way around again and again in a clockwise motion you will hear a musical sensation. Then a clown-shaped figure will pop out and you’ll be surprised because you didn’t except it. Then you can close it inside the box and play all over again. Truly this toy should mark your cognitive skills. I hope you have fun and enjoy it. Oh, and I do hope this post wasn’t too long. I do know what a challenge it is to have to read a fully expressed idea in today’s world. Have a pleasant evening.
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Don't post here, ever again. For the dignity of your self. And the supressed anger of ours.
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I have the right to free speech guaranteed to me by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America and will post wherever I please. Thank you very much and God Bless America!
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This site is very much international as it is run by Total-MK, from Australia. Yes you have free speech, as does everyone else, though insulting the members of this board is far considered unnecessary.
I would be pleased if you never insulted this board, or any members, ever again. And I would be honored to ban you for it.
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| MoonEye821 wrote: | | I’m sorry. I was wrong to bring logic into a world that has little. It is all my fault. I misunderstood. I thought that false advertisement was illegal. I was under the impression that a company’s promise had value. I mean, they promised all Mortal Kombat fighting characters to return and I somehow misconstrued that into meaning that all the characters from the Mortal Kombat fighting games where supposed to come back. I am truly and honestly sorry. How could I be so foolish as to use logic and reason? I mean excuse me for thinking that my MK fan peers would have the deducing powers I have. I guess the Koncept of every fighting character returning actually meaning what is spelled out word for word was too much for me to except you to be able to process. I can only hope that with time wisdom and knowledge will come to the rest of you as it has come to me. Until then, I am sorry for introducing and advanced concept into a social mechanism prematurely. There are two roads that can be taken. I can A, explain it to you until you understand. Or I can B, let you teach yourself. That is true for all things. We can learn ourselves or be taught. I decided to let you all riddle the rest of this out on your own. I don’t want to make your brains implode from the sheer gravity of grasping such a vast and unreachable Koncept that, “every fighting character backs,” means that every single fighting characters is promised to come back. I mean, truly, I excepted your brain’s synapses to at this stage in your life actually leap across such a vast a vapid chasm? How dare I!?! I will let you wait in ignorance then until you are ready to pull yourselves out of ignorance and teach yourselves that, “every single fighting character back,” means that every single fighting characters is promised to come back. In closing, I truly apologize for the inconvenience of introducing a topic which obviously requires such grappling thought and processing. It was my mistake and I am sorry. *Hands you a jack in the box.* Here you go. I hope this better fits. If you turn this little handle all the way around again and again in a clockwise motion you will hear a musical sensation. Then a clown-shaped figure will pop out and you’ll be surprised because you didn’t except it. Then you can close it inside the box and play all over again. Truly this toy should mark your cognitive skills. I hope you have fun and enjoy it. Oh, and I do hope this post wasn’t too long. I do know what a challenge it is to have to read a fully expressed idea in today’s world. Have a pleasant evening. |
"That Was Pathetic."
Please, stop offending members or [ban]MoonEye821[/ban]
You remind me of one guy who wanted to sue everybody. Do you know what happened to him?
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| MoonEye821 wrote: | | I have the right to free speech guaranteed to me by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America and will post wherever I please. Thank you very much and God Bless America! |
Actully, all tho you have that right in the United States, you may say what you want, but I don't have to like it. Example: you can walk in to Mcdonalds and yell out: "I hate your food.. it tastes like shit", but you will still most likely be removed from the resturant. Now, just so you know...that can happen here. This is my website, I own it...it is my property belive it or not, If I deem what you are saying, I simply don't like...I have the right to remove it and take action agianst you (eg ban from the website)
As for your last post, I have no idea what you are rambling on about "They said all characters will be in the next game" because they have already said that they are! If you are somehow aluding to the fact that we don't know about Meat or Chameleon, just so you know...they are not real characters, they never were. Meat is just a skin, with a characters asigned moves....meat has no biography. Chamelon has a bio I belive on the N64 version, but agian is just a skin with asigned moves (Female / Male ninjas) and these characters were only in the home versions of MK4 and MKT. I don't belive these characters should be in Armageddon myself, but if they are it won't bother me at all...I would rather Chamelon than Meat, thats for sure. When I spoke to the makers of the game, they told me they are trying to get Meat and Chameleon in there anyway...so why the over the top sarcasm and hate for Midway?
"He was an entity in the game that could be controlled by the human player. By that, my definition, he is a character." - MoonEye821
No, not true...he is a skin of any exsisting character in MK4. If your definition was correct that would mean there is 2 Ashra's in MK:D because of the differant skins which make them look differant.
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wow, if i were you i would hide from everyone now. we are much smarter then you think. you have no right to insult us. on topic, meat is not a character he is a skin. if you want him so bad then create him in kak.
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roflmao!!!!!
but yeah i agree that there should be EVERY ONE!, i think someone mentioned earlier if they dont include them we should be able to make them.
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| DuMDuM wrote: | roflmao!!!!!
but yeah i agree that there should be EVERY ONE!, i think someone mentioned earlier if they dont include them we should be able to make them. |
i agree, everyone that isn't a skin. the two chemelons should be in there but if not then i'll just make them.
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Uh-oh, someone had fun with a thesaurus! I implore you to revise your angle on this website, as the champion members of this exquisite website wish not to hear your nonsensical bumbling. Furthermore, I also wish you to remove the pickle from your rectum, and the crack pipe from your mouth. These two actions may have positively drastic affects on your life!
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 Although I do not think you people, personally, deserve this attention; I think the argument and my point does. This is no longer for your benefit, but rather for that of my point's. So, let me try to teach you again.
In Mortal Kombat we have three, or more technically four, types of characters. Tradition playable characters are easy to define because they are, well, playable. The second and still easy to define, usually, are boss characters. This also has category 3, or more a sub-category, that is Sub-Bosses. They used to be easy to define; un-playable characters at the end of the game. Now, with Shinok in MK4, we have a rift. MKT is an exception because it was created to show-case the characters, not be a traditional MK title. But Shinok was a boss and playable. As was the Deadly Alliance both boss and playable. So, the I guess the new definition of a boss characters, excluding character show-case games like MKT and MKA, is the character at the end of the game.
The final category of characters has always been the hardest to define because they are in nature elusive. These are secret characters. I think what has stopped a definition apparently not being made before mine, was the fact that no one else seemed to have tried to define them.
These characters are secreted in the background of the game. They are elusive, and sometimes not even playable by the human. The first of which, who is now a veteran and well respect character; Reptile. Reptile was nothing more or less that a Green palette swap and a blend of Scorpion and Sub-Zero's moves that moved quicker. The movie, and next game, gave him a story. But there is no bio in part one. So, by your people's definition, was he not a true character until MKII? Well, actually, by my definition he isn't either. But that is the question isn't it? When does a character become accepted as a character by fans and by definition and why aren’t these two forms of acceptance the same?
What we have to look at is, the truth, that a lot of secret characters become accepted by fans as characters in later chapters in the game. So, what does that make them before hand? Characters, characters in the making, or simply nothing. I refuse to call them nothing.
Reptile, Noob Saibot, Smoke Human and Robotic, Jade, Rain, Ermac; all secret characters that started as nothing, or little more, than a sprite palette color swap. A lot of them, Reptile, Noob, Jade, Smoke Human; never got a story until later games. To me, it sounds like you people here, would say that originally then these characters, they are considered characters now, where NOTHING at all. NOTHING. I REFUSE to call them nothing. You can not say they where nothing. But, you all keep trying to say this.
My question to you is, why can Midway take seven color changes to the exact same graphic set, give them "three pages" I put quotes because they aren’t even full pages. More like one page in MS Word of storyline, a few moves; a lot of which where also shared just like the sprites where, and then all you people call them characters. BUT.... When Midway makes a skin, which I agree he is a skin by definition as well as a character, that looks completely unique and different than everyone else but, oh Mylanta, there isn't that paragraph of story in the mix. He must not be a character. Can't you use your imagination and tie him in? Or, maybe Meat will be given a storyline in MKA. Then will he be real to you?
Why do seven palette swaps of the SAME CHARACTER with SHARED MOVES and a ONE Micro Soft Word page worth of story become a real character to you but a UNIQUE and ORIGINAL playable skin isn't because he does not, by deduction of MK history as of yet but probably will, have his one page of story?
Yes, I am more a console follower than the story, but that doesn't mean I don't fallow the story. But this is a video game. That means that game comes before the story. The story will come in later, or be filled in by the fans who have imagination.
My definition is right. And Meat is a character. He is a secret character just as valid, and in my opinion more original and thus more valid, than the one character that goes by the seven names of Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Ermac, Smoke, Noob Saibot, and Rain.
At least Meat was ORIGINAL. All of the seven above barrow from each other in so many, a lot of people would say too many, ways.
Sub-Zero and Ermac Share the slide. Scorpion and Smoke share harpoon and teleport punch. Ermac shares Shao Kahn's fire ball. Rain and Erma's juggle move share the same Ninja graphic pose with the hand in the air. They share the same victory stances. They share the same fighting stances. They share the same actor.
Some could argue that the ONLY thing original was they got their one page story tie-ins.
Meat at least looks different than everyone else. That's more than the seven Ninja's did.
Look at me, I'll show you how easy it is to make a sellable character to you.
I tried the Male Ninja sprite, but Midway already exhausted that. The rainbow hues are already all used up. So, I will use a Cyborg.
This will be the Green Cybernetic Ninja. Let's call him, for sake of honesty, Cash.
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Hollywood had box office hits from Johnny Cage's MKI and II. But they wanted more action, more characters. Sense Johnny Cage went off on "vacations" to destroy his writer's block for long bouts at a time; Hollywood decided to do a little research into the origin of the Cybernetic Ninja's planned to be featured in Cage's next big-budget film.
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After realizing that these mechanized nightmares truly existed, the executives at Jonny Cage's personal studios knew they had to beat everyone else to the rights for the plans. Having more monetary wealth than the Lin Kuei ever knew, generated by countless sequels and prequels of their greatest hits, Johnny Cage studios struck a deal. However, the Lin Kuei struck with a vengeance. To make sure that this new borg would never outdo the old ones, they fashioned him with the telepunch, which many borgs already had. As well as just one single missile. No two, and no homing. The studio snuck in Shao Kahn's hammer at a secret move and fatality and walla. A monster was born.
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After beating Shao Kahn on film, Cash went to Outworld to confront the man in person. Buying Kahn off with money he embezzled from the Cage's Studio, Cash went on to fight his greatest foe, Cage himself. Knowing that no amount of money could buy off Cage; he had to prove himself in Kombat. Having no original moves, Cash had nothing but a pallet swap, this story, and the money of countless fans behind him, Cage found beating Cash easy picking. Cash was not dead forever, however. Nothing ever truly dies in Hollywood. It only gets re-used. Someday, once three more Cashes are made. A new borg will be made that has all seven together. And, if that borg is lucky enough, ten years after his creation he might be accepted as a true character just like Chameleon is working toward now. But, for now, Cash takes pride in the fact that because he has a storyline he's now just as much a character as Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Reptile, Ermac, Rain, Noob Saibot, and Smoke.
I hope this goes to prove my point. Else I fear I'll find Cash a secret character in MK on the next generation systems. lol.
Go here: http://www.geocities.com/mooneye821/
To see a picture of CASH. It took me longer to load on the internet than it did to create the graphic. That’s the true mark of originality that was achieved seven times before that you all take as valid.
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