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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:16 pm
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Here's my theory as to why I keep getting a bad taste in my mouth after reading about MK in a magazine (EGM and the recent XBN being prime examples).
I think that it's because these people are Street Fighter purists that think MK was a blatant rip off of SF. I've heard that argument a million times. How there's so much strategy in SF, and how MK only added fatalities to give the thirteen year old boys something to crap their pants about. Oh, and of course, to stir up controversy. When the first MK came out, and then the second. Gampro and every other magazine couldn't WAIT to get their readers the first dirt and info. EGM put Jax and Sonya on their cover (for MK3), only to have a tiny little blurb on some random page. I know this to be true, because I bought all of those magazines, only to find one page or less as far as real info. Videogames magazine put Sektor on the cover and had half a page. The list goes on. My point is that when MK was at it's hight of PUBLIC popularity, these magazines couldn't kiss Ed Boon's heinie enough. But MK3 came out to less than stellar reviews, and then came the rehashes. Now I loved UMK3 and MK Trilogy. I even watched the TV show that came on after WCW Nitro on TNT. I bought MK Mythologies and generally enjoyed it. But by this time it almost became cool for these magazines to say that MK was dead, and oh how the new 3D fighting games were such as step above, and besides, SF was better anyways.
Man does that piss me off!! I grew up on Mortal Kombat. The first game came out on Genesis and SNES when I was 11 or 12. I liked videogames at the time, but more as a fun thing to do once or twice a week when I went over to a friends house and we had nothing better to do. MK changed that completely. I lived over at my friends houses, and we'd all play MK and later MK2 for hours. It's such a shame to see that EGM and XBN and many other video game mags are simply saying stuff like: "Yeah, it's coming along nicely, and the graphics look good. Lets just hope that it doesn't suck as much as every game since Mortal Kombat 2." I don't get it, some of the best moments I've ever had playing videogames came from MK 1 and 2. Finally finding Reptile in MK1 WITHOUT having to read a strategy guide to find out how. The first time I used the Kintaro morph fatality in MK2 on my unsuspecting friend, and watching his jaw drop. Hopping the bus down to the Brickyard Mall in Chicago with a friend after school just hoping that we MK3 would finally arrive in their arcade, and then waiting and waiting and talking to people in line that were as excited to play it as we were when it finally did arrive. You can't put some lame review score on stuf like that. I think that this game will snag good reviews from the gaming press, and if it doesn't, screw them, I'll go out and get the first day it comes out anyways. They can take their same lame unchanged Street Figher games and shove them straigut up their Hadoken shooter.
Have a nice day :twisted:
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 10:46 am
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Same problem with the game magazines I read here in the netherlands. I only read them for the screenshots and general info. I never read the opinions of the writer, cause they are always lame.
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:08 pm
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I just don't get it. This game looks amazing! The characters look really intriguing, and the modes announced so far look like they'll be a lot of fun. Yet all these magazines do is give sarcastic remarks about how every game has sucked since MK2. Now I haven't played MK Special Forces, but I heard that the game was a complete mess. Fine, okay. I also played MK Mythologies, and the while the movement of the character was awkward (jumping was way too difficult), the game itself was fun to play. I personally liked MK 3, UMK3, and Trilogy. I admit, the dial a combos weren't the best way to go, but at least MK tried to freshen things up and change from game to game. Look at how radically different MK 2, MK 3, and MK 4 are. You really can't say the same thing about the Street Fighter series, and you certainly can't say the same thing about some of these 3D "masterpieces" like Tekken and Dead or Alive. I just wish that these magazines will be able to play the game and see for themselves before they judge.
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 3:41 pm
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Game Informer and PSM both like MK. They didn't give it any lip what-so-ever, thank god! Only praise!
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 8:04 pm
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Hi all, looong time MK master here(bow your head you impotent dogs!) that signed up just to reply to this. You see, this crap bothered me for a long time until I figured it out. Want to know the truth? Here it goes:
They hate MK because they suck at it, plain and simple. It's easy for us MK pros to forget how much dedication, coordination, focus, and discipline it takes to truly master MK, thus making it worthwhile. But let's face it, were talking countless hours of practice for several years.
Now lets examine professional game reviewers. They don't play games because they love them like us, but because they get paid to do so. Granted they may have started out liking them, but after being forced to play them for years, they hate them. So notice the games they really like; short, easy, brainless games, with and easy learning curve and no replay value. Games that take up as little of their valuable golf time as possible. Essentially, the opposite of everything MK is.
So why did they abandon MK after MK2? The introduction of combos they couldn't do, and didn't take the time to learn, would be my guess. That and the shear intimidating speed of the new MKs. Hard stuff for those lazy, old, arthritis/alzheimer's stricken professional game reviewers.
So there you have it.
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 2:05 pm
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I'd agree with some of what you're saying. Video game reviewers (especially EGM) seem to be guilty of laziness. If it's a certain series, you know before you even read the reviews what it will get. Furthermore you also know what games they don't like. They don't like Twisted Metal, they don't like Mortal Kombat, or Test Drive, Sega's 2K series or 90% of all Xbox games. Or at least that's the trend I've noticed, of course I own one, so I'm prone to see it that way. But they are lazy. If it's Resident Evil, Madden, Mario (or any other kiddie crap from Nintendo like Zelda and Kirby), Grand Theft Auto, Street Fighter, the list goes on. You know what scores these games will get. Good ones. Have you ever played Madden and then played NFL2K3? NFL is clearly better. But I guess that's just preference. My point here is that the reviewers seem to care less about the gameplay and more about the name. If they like the name, or it's always been good to them in the past, they'll love it. If they always hated the game, like they must've with MK, even though they never let on, then they'll bash it the second a sequel comes out. My system bias (and yes I have owned all three) has nothing to do with this. Now I don't know how much of a chance the guys at EGM will give MK:DA, but I really don't care. I'll buy it, and I'll enjoy it. Who wants to place a bet that MK doesn't get higher than a 7 out of 10? Huh? Any takers? Man would I love to be wrong about this one. EGM, prove me wrong!
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 3:31 pm
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Well guys, if we need to place bets, my hopes are on for:
IGN.com - 9.5/10
GameSpot.com - 9/10
Game Pro Mag - 5/5
That's the least I wish for, in a highier a perfect score would be better... Notice how the least I hope for Game Pro (altough they're not covering MK as they used to) is a perfect one, this because MKII got that from them, and if MK: DA is aimimg to be better, then it needs to be at that level by far.
Keep this thread in mind as for reviews times, place your thoughts on how much MK: DA will get in certain reviews so we know who was right at the end.
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 3:58 pm
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Good idea Albert. Here are my predictions (oh, and you left out Electronic Gaming Monthly, the stingiest of the stingy)
IGN: 9 out of 10 
Gamespot 8.0 out of 10 
Electronic Gaming Monthly: 7, 6.5, 8 out of 10 :evil:
XBN 7 out of 10 
OXM: 9 out of 10 :mrgreen:
Gamspot fan review average: 8.8 
Gamepro: 4.5 out of 5 
These are the minimum I expect reviewers to give it. Anything less (especially from YOU EGM!) would probably be a freakin crime. I know that none of us have played it yet, but it's still shaping up to be the best game in the series. You can tell how much time and effort is going into this game.
I will be pleasantly surprised if EGM gives the game a Silver, but I'm not counting on it. C'mon EGM! Surprise me!
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I agree with darth goro. I'm a Dead or Alive 3 master. It's so fun when your mate thinks he's got you on the rocks  and then you chuck him out of a 15th story window :evil: and promptly start dislocating his shoulder while he's recovering :twisted: ! So much fun, so many hours spent  . It does take a long time to become a beat-em-up pro  .
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2002 5:04 pm
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| Baraka407 wrote: | | I'd agree with some of what you're saying. Video game reviewers (especially EGM) seem to be guilty of laziness. If it's a certain series, you know before you even read the reviews what it will get. Furthermore you also know what games they don't like. They don't like Twisted Metal, they don't like Mortal Kombat, or Test Drive, Sega's 2K series or 90% of all Xbox games. Or at least that's the trend I've noticed, of course I own one, so I'm prone to see it that way. But they are lazy. If it's Resident Evil, Madden, Mario (or any other kiddie crap from Nintendo like Zelda and Kirby), Grand Theft Auto, Street Fighter, the list goes on. You know what scores these games will get. Good ones. Have you ever played Madden and then played NFL2K3? NFL is clearly better. But I guess that's just preference. My point here is that the reviewers seem to care less about the gameplay and more about the name. If they like the name, or it's always been good to them in the past, they'll love it. If they always hated the game, like they must've with MK, even though they never let on, then they'll bash it the second a sequel comes out. My system bias (and yes I have owned all three) has nothing to do with this. Now I don't know how much of a chance the guys at EGM will give MK:DA, but I really don't care. I'll buy it, and I'll enjoy it. Who wants to place a bet that MK doesn't get higher than a 7 out of 10? Huh? Any takers? Man would I love to be wrong about this one. EGM, prove me wrong! |
Great post. I was going to go into this a little more, but you covered it.
I just want to add that they obviously don't finish many of the games they review. Watch RPGs reviews and notice how they almost never talk about the ending. And I get the feeling they tend to spend about 15 minutes on playing fighting games before they dish out a review, making the review worthless. That's not even enough time to learn the baisc controls.
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