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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:37 am
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Hey guys, just to let you know: Liu´s MK:D ending can´t be cannon. His soul has never been transported back to his body.
| Nightwolf´s bio wrote: | | At the summit, Kitana approached me. I was amazed to find that she was accompanied by the spirit of Liu Kang. The bond between them was strong; thus she was able to keep his energies intact until a way to reunite his body and soul could be found. There was not much I could do to help until I achieved a much higher level of shamanic power. Mustering what little magic I had left after my quest in the Netherrealm, I transferred the bond from Kitana to myself and accepted my role as Liu Kang's new spiritual anchor. Perhaps this unknown power sought by the Forces of Darkness could be the key to helping Liu Kang find peace. |
PS: I think Kitana wouldn´t mind touching Liu Kang. Come on, her own mother is zombie and Kitana herself had been killed and resurrected during the events of Deception 
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:43 am
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Well, I justify the intro as being canon by what I've stated above. My personal canon policy includes all:
-Intro movies
-Character bios
-Confirmed endings from the game that follows
-The events from Konquest mode
This applies only to Mortal Kombat 1 through MK: Armageddon, and the only other game included in there is Mythologies: Sub-Zero (and possibly US Special Forces, since it seems to fit into the story too). That's just me though, since there really isn't a confirmed or official "canon" code for MK (especially since Shaolin Monks is considered a 'retcon' of MK2).
Thanks for the refresher course smiley. I was pretty sure Liu Kang's ending from MKD wasn't canon but it's been a while since I've read the MK:AR bios so I wasn't 100% positive until now.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:28 am
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Come on Frog Man, it's quite obvious the battle at the pyramid didn't happen precisely like the intro showed. There were great armies that battled before the pyramid, according to Konquest. Everything on there was just to look cool and give you a good idea of the plot. Whether or not it was canon, it is still one hell of an intro.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:00 am
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We don't even get to see the armies, they could be in the background. Granted it probably didn't happen precisely like it did in the intro movie (Shang Tsung basically making it to the top first? No Taven and Daegon to speak of?) but I'd argue the epic battle for the top of the pyramid did occur.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:40 am
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| Amphibious wrote: | | We don't even get to see the armies, they could be in the background. Granted it probably didn't happen precisely like it did in the intro movie (Shang Tsung basically making it to the top first? No Taven and Daegon to speak of?) but I'd argue the epic battle for the top of the pyramid did occur. |
yeah totally but then again it couldnt have been didnt shao kahn die in MKDA or did deception bring him back also as we saw alot of people were killed in armageddons intro and i doubt that everybody would have been teamed together like the way they were.........
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:29 am
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Shao Kahn senses the plot on his life, and creates a clone of himself, which the Deadly Alliance kills. The still-recovering Shao Kahn has Noob Saibot mortally wound Goro, which blunts the Edenian-Shokan invasion. Kahn then saves Goro's life and bring him back onto his side.
As for the alliances, I totally agree, we'd never see Scorpion fighting along side Quan Chi (or fighting the younger Sub-Zero, for that matter). I guess I'm starting to see how the intro movie is less and less canon than I originally thought.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:28 am
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| Shin Samurai wrote: | | also as we saw alot of people were killed in armageddons intro |
But we never actually see anyone get killed, it always cuts away to another fight. (Ex: After Baraka fires his blast at Kung Lao, he gets kicked back, but he doesnt die, and then on to Raiden and Shinnok.)
That raises another question. If Raiden and Shinnok have this so-called alliance, why are they fighting?
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:39 am
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| Quote: | | But we never actually see anyone get killed, it always cuts away to another fight. (Ex: After Baraka fires his blast at Kung Lao, he gets kicked back, but he doesnt die, and then on to Raiden and Shinnok.) |
You see Li Mei take a sword through her body and get flung 50 feet;
You see Kenshi get stabbed through vital organs by Quan Chi and then curb stomped by Shang Tsung - he also falls and doesn't move - I think he died =);
Baraka was only partially stabbed, I assumed it went deep, but not that deep;
You also see Shao Kahn get picked up by Onaga and literraly eaten in the air.
| Quote: | | That raises another question. If Raiden and Shinnok have this so-called alliance, why are they fighting? |
Because the intro ain't 100% canon. =)
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:28 am
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| Jay wrote: | | You see Li Mei take a sword through her body and get flung 50 feet; |
We still don't see her die. Considering we've seen Johnny Cage have the top half of his head bittin off by Reptile in Shaolin Monks intro and Liu Kang take a spear to the chest, only for the wounds to disappear, I'm sure Lie Mei could survive that wound.
And, even if we ignore Shaolin Monks, we still have seen characters take incredible amounts of damage before and survive. There's also people who could have revived her back to health. Or, considering the events of the intro take place near the end of the Konquest mode, she could very well have died there.
| Jay wrote: | | You see Kenshi get stabbed through vital organs by Quan Chi and then curb stomped by Shang Tsung - he also falls and doesn't move - I think he died =); |
As with the case of Lie Mei, he could have been revived, or, like all the other characters for that matter, they could very well die there, since the events in the intro movie take place near the end of Konquest mode, and that's likely just before someone getting to Blaze and defeating him. Since most characters will die in MK:Armageddon, its possible these characters die here.
| Jay wrote: | | You also see Shao Kahn get picked up by Onaga and literraly eaten in the air. |
Correction, we see Onaga grab Shao Kahn, pick him up, and fly off with him, while Shao Kahn screams. Onaga presumably takes him to settle the score once and for all. After all that time to think about his betrayal, I doubt very much Onaga would kill him quickly.
| Savage wrote: | | That raises another question. If Raiden and Shinnok have this so-called alliance, why are they fighting? |
By that point in time, Raiden sees an opportunity to strike the fallen Elder God. Raiden knows that Shinnok is not to be trusted, he was just playing along until he could find out his objectives. By the time they reach the pyramid, it's probably clear to Raiden what Shinnok is after, and so he begins his attack then.
| Jay wrote: | | Because the intro ain't 100% canon. =) |
True, even I have conceded to this, but that doesn't mean it's not partially or even mostly canon.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:46 pm
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It's only 73% canon.
Why is it so hard to just leave it at that? =)
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:40 pm
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Come on Frogger, you're no attorney, it's not about proof, it's about common sense at this point. The intro was purely for enjoyment value. I enjoyed it and never even assumed that's what actually happened, it was just obvious to me.  We can do battle if you'd rather settle it that way. Pick a side.
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