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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:12 pm
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Ok, I like the rest of the game, but KAF for female warriors is just taking the mick. Example, I tried to create Rin From Tenchu, for anyone who hasn't played Tenchu, this is what she looks like.
Is it posible to get a character that looks remotely like her? The answer, sadly, is no.
And why not? Why didn't they put in sleeveless martial arts jackets for women, the karate jacket without sleeves would have been perfect, if I coloured it a bit. I'm sure that you can get that for male characters. Only 2 skirts are avilable, neither of which look remotely like Rin's skirt. Can't really even get the wrist bands to match hers. maybe black wraps.
You also can't even have a female warrior with a sword strapped to her. for male there is at least 2 that you can, the ninja swords on the back and the katana at the waist, which would have been good to use on Rin if it was in the female section, not perfect as she has the sheath at the back of her waist, but good. The only weapons you can have attached to a female is gun holsters, and knifes attached to the legs, which Rin does not have. Also the closest hair I could get was the bob which was useless. Sandals were ok, so no complaints about the footwear. In the end I gave up on trieing to make Rin.
Now what is so sad about this. I try to make one character from another game, what are the only majority things it offers for creating a female warrior? Bikini tops, bras (or even just bit of string), thongs, high boots. Why? If you want to see that buy a copy of FMH or Maxim. Creating a male warrior based on another character is easy, I was able to make Mumm-Ra, Lion-O, Panthro and even Tygra from thundercats. That was pretty easy, couldn't get them perfect, but close enough. And what is with lip colour for females. It pissed me off. I tried to create Cheetara, the outworld face tattoo would have been perfect, If I could make the tattoos red but no. You can change the tattoo colour on male characters, but with female its "Lip colour." Aren't the colour of the Tattoos for an outworld face a hundred times more important than the colour of lips? For both genders. Pretty much gave up on Cheetara as well.
Honestly, If KAF is in MK8, then it has got to improve the choice for creating female characters to more than some Lingerai show. Rin even is a ninja, so it should have been easy to create her. I really think that midway were only considdering some guys who have no life and are into crap like graphics of half naked women. Try to create a woman based on any game character, and you will be disapointed, unless it is a character from some stupid game like BMX XXX.
People my age or older would know who Mumm Ra is, but for anyone who doesn't remember thundercats, this is him.
Ok, my character isn't the spitting image, used the samurai helmet and it doesn't have the nose guard, but those horn like things Mumm-Ra's helmet has are pretty close to that of what the samurai helmet has, and for the tattoo on his chest I had to iuse the harness, with the straps coloured the same as his chest so that it loons like just the redmark, but anyone who knows a bit about thundercats would probably think the character I made looked like Mumm-Ra if they saw it.
Anyone should agree with this, that if I can create a character that looks remotely like such a being as Mumm-Ra, but can't create Rin, who is suposed to be a normal human, then midwa must have missed out a hell of a lot in the options for creating female kombatants.
If you don't beleive me, then you see the picture of Rin near the top of this message, try to create her. You will soon see that it is pretty much imposible
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:46 am
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If you give me a few more detailed pictures of her, like face body and clothes close ups, I'll give a hack at it.
And I know what you mean, the system ingeneral was lacking but all in all, it wasnt too bad for a first attempt.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:40 am
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Ok is this enough
Actually, I think it was bad for a first attept. If instead of putting 100 different types of thongs, it had just allowed the same clothing as it does for male, it would have probably been easy enough.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:19 pm
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That should be enough, once I ge back from school I'll get right on it.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:29 pm
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It might be posible to create the other charcter in Tenchu: Fatal Shadows, Ayame.
Although, it would be a lot better if it allowed the two ninja swords on the back for female characters. I really don't get why it doesn't, that can be anyone's weapon.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:34 am
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I agree that the KAF system is lackin, alltho it is a nice touch to the game, if it is in the next one it will be much better, besides the obvious complaints about it, my main piss off is, only the female KAFS can have hotarus helmet!!!! Grrrrrrr!! 
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:29 am
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Funny this was posted. I was actually feeling the same about the KAF female system a couple nights ago when i was trying to create a specific look thinking the female wardrobe it contained would suffice.
Once you have a little bit of freedom, you thirst for more and more.
The problem here is that the freedom is very limited no matter what you try.
You can get by with something that comes close to that character, but it wont be near the exact. Mostly color matched stuff rather than actual specific aesthetics. 
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:33 pm
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I supose even the male warriors do lack some things, I was wanting to create Duke Nukem at one point but there was no Hawaiian shirts. But there would be something close enough. With a female character you don't really get much chance to get at all close.
What gets me about female warriors is instead of giving actuall clothing it gives as many types of underwear as it can. It is weid that it only allows Hotaru's helmet for female and not male, especially when Hotaru was a male character.
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:47 pm
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Yeah I was actually sad about the female items lacking a cyber suit to make a female robot ninja with the Cyrax helmet it lets you use.
On the other hand, I have to admit, being able to make Vampirella, Lady Death, Purgatory and Lady Death (tan skin) was a great experience.
Or even Chun Li, Sakura and Sailor Moon. XD
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:23 am
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Alright Albert, i got the KAF's complete man, it's just a matter of typing up the formulas now. The first girl came out iffy, due to lack of options, but the second girl came out nicely, if I do say so myself! I'll have the formulas up in a few hours or so, I need a break from the PS2 controller. X_X
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:12 pm
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| Satyricon wrote: | | I agree that the KAF system is lackin, alltho it is a nice touch to the game, if it is in the next one it will be much better, besides the obvious complaints about it, my main piss off is, only the female KAFS can have hotarus helmet!!!! Grrrrrrr!! |
LOL posible hint for a story to the next game. Where it turned out a woman wanted to be a Saiden guard, but that realm only allowed men. So she needed to go in disguise to get into the saiden guards. That woman turned out to be Hotaru...
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:40 am
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| Albert Simon wrote: | | Satyricon wrote: | | I agree that the KAF system is lackin, alltho it is a nice touch to the game, if it is in the next one it will be much better, besides the obvious complaints about it, my main piss off is, only the female KAFS can have hotarus helmet!!!! Grrrrrrr!! |
LOL posible hint for a story to the next game. Where it turned out a woman wanted to be a Saiden guard, but that realm only allowed men. So she needed to go in disguise to get into the saiden guards. That woman turned out to be Hotaru... |
I'm down with a tranny Hotaru, lol 
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