|
|
|
 |
|
|
|
 |
VainZiler
True Fighting Fan
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 2645
Location: In front of a computer
TMK Koins: 777730
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:38 pm
Post subject: Copyright and Youtube/FanFiction |
 |
| |
Alright now most people know the copy right laws, others know some of them, and others have no clue what they are. I know a few of them, but not too many. Now lately, youtube and various fan fiction sites have taken off many works because of said laws. An example of this is LittleKuribo's first episode of Yi-Gi-Oh: The abriddged Series. In YGO: TAS, the maker would compress the episode into a few minuet long clips and do his own voice acting to make fun of it, while still in some way, explaining the episode. Now, LittleKuribo posted the normal warning, that Yu-Gi-Oh isn't his property, and stated who it belonged to. Now, from my experience this should protect works of satire, and works of fan-fiction from the laws of copy right, yet youtube still chose to take down the first episode.
Now, what I would like is to hear other peoples views on copy right laws, and how they feel people should be able to protect their fan works from the laws.
_________________
| Amphibious wrote: | | As the great VainZiller said so long ago... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
l{ombat_l{rave
TMK FanFic Kreator
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 3869
Location: Behind you. Your other behind.
TMK Koins: 999999999
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:34 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
...I have noticed that lately there has been a crack-down on the subject...still I have always felt many media-creating companies have been ripped off...and trust me it's not that I have respect for these specific companies/personally-owned-'projects', though I do believe letting their works be represented without authorization is totally unjust...
...I don't know how I'd live without many things from google video or the tube though I truly believe being able to witness these things free and easily from our computers (just because they mention the video/project's origin) while they were meant to be paid subscriptions is highly unfair as well wrong...
...meh...never really think about it though...I doubt it affects anyone too much (in vast numbers)...
_________________
"...don't think it's yours just 'cause you marked it with your urine."
Ínformatíos sumus memorías æternus.
~Totus Moratlís Kertamen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
VainZiler
True Fighting Fan
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 2645
Location: In front of a computer
TMK Koins: 777730
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:28 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
But the thing is, im not talking about things like full episodes or what not, i can understand someone wanting to prevent their full property to be paid for as it should, but what I am talking about is works of fans such as fan-fictions, AMV's, and --!#$@--. These seem to be more of a target then the full fetured episodes themselves.
_________________
| Amphibious wrote: | | As the great VainZiller said so long ago... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
l{ombat_l{rave
TMK FanFic Kreator
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 3869
Location: Behind you. Your other behind.
TMK Koins: 999999999
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:54 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
...short edited clips may be targeted to preserve the original's value...alas fan fictions...their banning makes absolutely no sense, as long as the original works had been posted...lest I find that absolutely pointless and only a nuisance...
...I wish I could explain why they would target fan fiction...though I doubt there's a good reason...
_________________
"...don't think it's yours just 'cause you marked it with your urine."
Ínformatíos sumus memorías æternus.
~Totus Moratlís Kertamen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
VainZiler
True Fighting Fan
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 2645
Location: In front of a computer
TMK Koins: 777730
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:56 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
wtf.... it censors out the word S P O O F....
But the logic behind it (at least what I am guessing) is that someone is going around and using their property and manipulating it in ways they don't want, but the thing is, 90% of fan-fictions, amv's, and s p o o fs that are taken down for copy right violations, were based on AMERICAN copy right laws, when the products were from japan, which has extremely loose copy rights.
Another point for arguement is on the property of over seas things, like anime, manga, video games, ect... that have s p o o fs, amvs, and fan-fictions on them are being taken down, does an american company (like you-tube) have the athourity to do so, when does the american copyrights take over japans?
_________________
| Amphibious wrote: | | As the great VainZiller said so long ago... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jay
An Empty Shell
Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 2969
Location: United States
TMK Koins: 900755
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:25 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
It got taken down because he in a sense dubbed over Yu Gi Oh episodes and tried to make his own little series.
It may have been a parody, but it's still directly taking too much of Yu Gi Oh content.
_________________
Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
VainZiler
True Fighting Fan
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 2645
Location: In front of a computer
TMK Koins: 777730
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:32 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
| Jay wrote: | It got taken down because he in a sense dubbed over Yu Gi Oh episodes and tried to make his own little series.
It may have been a parody, but it's still directly taking too much of Yu Gi Oh content. |
True, but last tim I checked, acts of satire were protected by copy right laws, inwich that was what YGO: TAS is. And if this was the case, why didnt they remove all the episodes, along with any other videos like this.
_________________
| Amphibious wrote: | | As the great VainZiller said so long ago... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jay
An Empty Shell
Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 2969
Location: United States
TMK Koins: 900755
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:52 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
Because youtube admins are choosy on what's okay or not.
There are actual MOVIES on YouTube that haven't even been released on DVD yet, but somehow admins overlook it or are "oblivious" to it.
I'm pretty sure that if YouTube was run by people who upheld legal matters very seriously, then half the vids on YouTube would immediately be deleted.
_________________
Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
VainZiler
True Fighting Fan
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 2645
Location: In front of a computer
TMK Koins: 777730
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:01 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
But again, if they did uphold legal stature, then as I said, YGO: TAS is an act of satire, which last I checked had legal protection from copy right laws, inwhich you-tube had no right top take it down from reasons explained.
And I honestly don't get why you brought up the whole 'movies not even released are on there' because I know this, and those (legally) should be taken off, but instead they waste their time taking down legal acts of satire.
_________________
| Amphibious wrote: | | As the great VainZiller said so long ago... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
l{ombat_l{rave
TMK FanFic Kreator
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 3869
Location: Behind you. Your other behind.
TMK Koins: 999999999
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:36 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
...justice would be for them all to go alas in their case I believe those particular movies should definitely be the largest concern...
...something I found out (or remembered) was that you can complain to google/tube that a video is violating copyright laws and they'll look into it, though rarely til then...
...thus perhaps a worker in the business of 'Yu-Gi-Oh' (doubtfully, probably just someone stupid) may have sent in a complaint...and perhaps there are many people looking into it and complaining all around...
...ah but hell if I know...I don't know much on the subject (or don't pay much attention on the subject)...
_________________
"...don't think it's yours just 'cause you marked it with your urine."
Ínformatíos sumus memorías æternus.
~Totus Moratlís Kertamen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jay
An Empty Shell
Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 2969
Location: United States
TMK Koins: 900755
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:53 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
Look, the person who made the movie took actual yu gi oh footage and dubbed over it, renaming it a different series. It doesn't matter if it's satire.
Besides, youtube isn't meant for that. It's meant to upload your own personal videos.
And IF your friend does have a legal right, then he can just upload it again and maybe put it under a different name.
_________________
Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
VainZiler
True Fighting Fan
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 2645
Location: In front of a computer
TMK Koins: 777730
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:06 am
Post subject: |
|
| |
You-tube was meant to host any video you made, as in an AMV, satire what ever.
If that's the case, then ANY AMV should be taken down as well. Satire is legally protected therefor, is allowed.
He's not a friend, just someone who is a good example of what I am trying to prove. Then wont let him upload it any more, and if you go under a different name, they ban you. But he was gone out of his way to find other sites to host them, and they welcomed him with open arms.
_________________
| Amphibious wrote: | | As the great VainZiller said so long ago... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jay
An Empty Shell
Joined: 30 Nov 2004
Posts: 2969
Location: United States
TMK Koins: 900755
Items
|
| |
|
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:24 pm
Post subject: |
|
| |
No Vain, that's not what it's for. It's meant for a person to upload thier own personal videos that he or she made.
YouTube is NOT meant for AMVs, music vids, theatrical films, etc. Not unless the person uploading has ownership of it.
Before you upload a video, it says:
| Quote: | | Do not upload copyrighted material for which you don't own the rights or have permission from the owner. |
And for terms of use go here: http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
Read section C.
They had every right to remove that video. Like I had said, YouTube admins overlook a lot of things, so that's why so many vids that shouldn't be up there, are up there.
And that's good that he found another site to host his videos.
So obviously, if one has a similar problem with YouTube, they can just go somewhere else.
_________________
Very Angry Girls Instigate Negative Attitudes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|
| All times are GMT | Page 1 of 1
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
| |
|
| | |
